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What has failed? Is it the receptacle, the wiring, or the circuit breaker?
This duplex receptacle, on the ceiling in the garage, powers my garage door opener and a 30 ft retractable extension cord. It is on a dedicated 15A circuit labeled "Garage Door." I was working with a 1250 watt halogen lamp and a power drill on the 30 ft extension cord when the drill stopped, and the lamp went dim, flickered once, then went out. Power to the receptacle appeared to be dead. The garage door opener will not work. I checked all circuit breakers and ground fault interrupters. I tested the receptacle and placing one lead into each slot, I got ~84 volts. If I tested hot to ground, I got 120 VAC.
I removed the receptacle from the ceiling. When I test the bare wires hot to neutral, i get ~84 volts AC. When I test hot to ground, i get ~120 VAC. If I turn off the "Garage Door" CB, all voltage drops to 0. Is this bad wiring? A bad neutral? A bad circuit breaker? I don't think this is a bad receptacle though. What could have caused this?
Help! The wife is tired of opening the garage door by hand!
Some of the things you said:
"Im curious if there is another outlet in the circuit or a junction box."
"You might have to check every receptacle on that circuit to find the problem neutral."
"The problem could be in the panel but most likely in one of the receptacles."
READ IT AGAIN, FIND THE WORDS "DEDICATED CIRCUIT," THEN SLAP YOURSELF IN THE FACE WITH A 2X4 PIECE OF LUMBER. Dedicated circuit means THIS IS THE ONLY RECEPTACLE on this circuit (breaker).
ARE YOU ELECTRICAL EINSTEINS EVEN READING THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPOUTING OFF THE WORST ANSWER IN HISTORY?
This answer below is the closest to the solution.
"either loose neutral or bad neutral, hook your bare ground to your neutral screw and try it, if it works it's the neutral, put bare ground back on ground screw and repair neutral."
iF YOU RE-READ THE QUESTION, I ALREADY DID THIS. Testing across hot to neutral i got ~84 volts (NOT GOOD). Testing across hot to ground I got ~120 volts (means neutral is likely bad).
6 Answers
- ?Lv 41 decade agoFavorite Answer
You overloaded the circuit. Something was over heated and "damaged". Usually in this situation it will be at a connection. A little known fact about standard circuit breakers (not GFI's), is the manufacturers recommend replacement if the breaker has encountered enough overload to trip them. They are not fuse breakers that have internal components designed to take the load, fail, and then be replaced. This does not mean the circuit breaker is automatically damaged and will not work. The vast majority will continue to "work", but due to the exposure of such an overload, they can no longer insure they will function at the limits intended..i.e. if it's rated for 15A, it may not trip until 16A. That can allow damage to electrical devices connected to this circuit not made to take that load. And ultimately, the worse case of fire. You need to have a licensed electrician evaluate this condition. And if they have never referenced this info about circuit breakers, I would insist they contact the tech dept of the breaker manufacturer of which you have...not the company that sold it or thier buddy thats been in the business for 45 years. Like i said. Its not common knowledge. Good luck.
- 1 decade ago
You have a neutral problem somewhere. If the receptacles are quick wired that is the first thing I would fix. This is where the wires just push into little holes in the back of the receptacle. Not Good and this problem shows you why. Curl the ends of the wire and put them under the side lugs and tighten.
You might have to check every receptacle on that circuit to find the problem neutral. With that loose neutral it can cause the voltage to spike so make sure to get all of the neutrals tight.
The problem could be in the panel but most likely in one of the receptacles.
Hope this helps.
Source(s): http://yourhowtopartner.com/ - analize2muchLv 41 decade ago
sounds like the neutral. Chances are you overheated a connection somewhere. The lamp is using up most of the circuit and if on for a long time can damage the circuit. Adding any more load is temping fate.
Although I wouldn't rule out a weak breaker.
Im curious if there is another outlet in the circuit or a junction box.
If you can't find it call an electrician and get some wife faction.
Source(s): electrical contractor - 5 years ago
One of the tougher problems to diagnose is when half a twin breaker goes bad. Even with a meter, you will get some feedback and you think you are getting 220, but you aren't. When this happens, your stove top will work, but the oven won't, or your dryer will start and run, but not heat. Check each switch individually, turning each side off and on. If there is any play in the switch, it's toast.
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- BryanLv 71 decade ago
Did you physically take the circuit breaker, turn it off and then reset it? If not try that. It has worked for me more than once. the breaker looked like it had not been tripped when in fact it had.
- 1 decade ago
either loose neutral or bad neutral, hook your bare ground to your neutral screw and try it, if it works it's the neutral, put bare ground back on ground screw and repair neutral.