If you think Government should provide healthcare...?

NO!

It opens the door wide to government tyranny. Our problems can be fixed without resorting to a system that PLAGUES populations all over the globe. It...doesn't...work.

I just did my taxes for '09. I paid in 15% of my income in Federal ALONE. Nevermind state, sales, ____ taxes on top of that. I worked AT LEAST 288 hours FOR FREE.

When is enough ever enough? How many programs does the government need to start, mess up and scrap for you liberals to realize that they are just people? People who don't know what the F they are doing.

P.S. If abortion is a right as well as healthcare where is my federally funded firearm?

Depends on the democratic will of the nation.

For example, with the US, yes as Obama was elected into office to allow people access to healthcare.

I do not understand why so many Americans have fallen for lies about healthcare in the USA, abroad and also the planned reforms [1]. I mean, if the healthcare system in the USA is so good, why have no other nations taken it up? Could it be due to the following facts?

FACT - the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet [2].

FACT - the US has higher death rates for kids under five than western European countries with universal health coverage [3].

Or if the US healthcare system is run so well, why not run the fire service like the healthcare system? [4]

Maybe that is because in the USA, insurance companies push up costs, buy politicians and refuse to pay claims that people pay for [5]. (Look up Wendell Potter on YouTube to hear more if the link below is too long.)

Obama wants to make insurance cheaper, stop insurance companies from refusing health coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, and make sure they pay out when they are meant to [6], a system similar to that which works in Taiwan [7]. He debated this before he was elected [8].

Is it right that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, Cuba, Germany and so many other industrialised nations with universal healthcare?

If you think my arguments are wrong, e-mail me with proof. But if you can not, let Obama try to help America. If he fails, vote him out in 2012.

No one anywhere is proposing the "nationalization" of healthcare. That would mean government run hospitals and physicians that work for the government (just like what happens in the VA, btw). What is being proposed is at most a subsidized plan for qualified individuals called the Public Option (to use your logic as to what Medicare, Medicaid,etc are).

If you can show us where the government specifically has plans to nationalize the healthcare system, perhaps you have an argument. Otherwise, you are simply misinformed.

Healthcare isn't a Right. We need to realize that anyone who thinks it is hasn't a clue what a Right is.

A Right is a power of the individual, one it is incumbent on the government to respect.

First of all, healthcare is not a power of the individual. You are ENTITLED to as much healthcare as you can provide yourself, and contract with the willing to provide, but no one is obligated to provide it for you.

The government is only obligated to assist in enforcing your contracts for healthcare that are freely entered into. Their power doesn't extend to enslaving doctors, hospitals, drugmakers, or insurance companies, or for that matter, other taxpayers to pay for it.

If you have to force someone else to participate in the exercise, it's simply not a Right. Anyone who thinks it is is an idiot, and that includes a number of people in the House of Representatives.

Because there is a difference between "FULLY SUBSIZING" and providing a "SAFETY NET" in the richest country in the history of the world.

Also, the majority of us read in the Constitution that government should protect "...life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..." and to us that means NOT JUST defense, but also health and education.

And if we need another amendment to the Constitution then maybe we should go for that.

The extension of this is what do you do for a homeless person who starts vomiting and falls unconscious on the street. Well, the hospital is going to try to help that person too, and the tax payers are going to pay for it. It has been found time and time again that preventative healthcare is much more cost (effective?) than emergency health care, both in terms of time and quality of life. One could (I don't, but one could) care less about the quality of life of other people, but most people prefer to pay less taxes.

So,they can treat every bum/crackhead of the street..how stupid is the goverment? they have to talk to the medical insurance companies to lower there standards who can be treated and cost? and LET us choose our own damm insurance.

Government should stay OUT of healthcare. They have made such a mess of social security that we should know better than to allow them to do anything else.

What will keep them from raiding the funds for pork just like they did with the social security"trust" fund?

Privatized health system doesn't act as other components of a free market economy. i.e. clothing, housing, supermarkets, etc. That is why in most G20 economies have some form of public sector input.

Fire protection and policing aren't mentioned as rights either. I suppose we should get rid of them also. How about sewer systems, hydroelectric dams? Not in the Contitution, guess we should just scrap those too. Think about how much money we'll save.

You can die without healthcare.

You almost surely won't die from not having a firearm.

REALLY stupid analogy.

And maybe if states started subsidizing health care like they do food and shelter, the national government wouldn't need to, would it?