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How would you argue with a racist?

What i am about to type i do not agree with, i am just playing devil's advocate.

Ok, lets say you are talking to a white man, and some how the conversation turns to race. He argues the blacks are inferior. His argument says that white people have the most beautiful music (Mozart, Chopin, Beethoven, The Beatles, etc.) and that rap is not music but black cultural expression with a simple beat in the background, and blues and jazz is just the expression of pain and disheartenment. Then he argues white people have created the most beautiful and revolutionary art this world will ever see. And then he continues to literature, that the most renound autors where white (Dostoevsky, Shakesphere, Charles Dickins, Tolstoy, Mark Twain, Hemingway, etc.). And so on and so forth. Then he concludes that black people are only superior to whites in athletics, and that is because of their evolutionary process and how they originated in Africa. After all that he says, sure there are a some blacks who are outstanding, but as a race white stand superior.

Also if you argue that not all people view everything you listed as outstanding and superior (authors, music art, etc.), he means the view of the general community.

If it seems like i put to much time into thinking about this question, and my disclaimer that i wrote in the begining seems disingenuous, well i did think about this question because i want you to think.

And sorry for any grammatical errors, or if there are parts that dont make sense, right now i dont give a damn, its 12:38, so i am not going to double check or even use the spell checker.

Update:

No, ive been reading racist blogs, and i want to see how people react to what other people have wrote.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    You DON'T argue with a racist.

    Anyone who takes such an anti-social stance, and allows the public to know about it, is not going to be convinced he's wrong.

  • 1 decade ago

    The basic problem with racists is that they are stuck on a skin tone. If they actually based their opinions on scientific data- DNA- they would not even care about the color of the skin. We all came from Africa. At this point in time we have different skin tones and eye shapes because our DNA has adapted us to our environment. Those who did not migrate from Africa 100, 000 or so years ago stayed dark to shield them from the harsh sun. Those who migrated to colder areas developed lighter skin because they did not need the melanin, and some developed an epicanthal fold to help shield their eyes from snow glare. Blue eyes are a DNA mutation, as well. So after all that typing I am just saying that racists are stupid.

    Any arguments about black or white culture are moot because they are based upon opinion. Who is to say the music of Mozart is more beautiful than the blues of BB King? It is subjective and futile. Personally, I love them both, and I am what one would consider "white".

    But consider "white" as race- it includes Spanish, Italian, German, Scottish, and many, many others. How can one even classify black and white?

    It is a ridiculous argument- we are all the same when you break down to flesh, bone and blood. If you are dying in the hospital you don't get to choose black or white blood or an organ donor by race.

    The world is becoming more mixed every day. The only "pure" races left are Aborigines and some of the most remote tribes of South America and Africa. If you were to do a DNA test for genealogy you would likely be surprised. We are all one family. Lets get along!

    Source(s): DNA genealogy testing and research on DNA, blood groups, and genealogy
  • Cam
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    There is actually considerable scholarship which suggests that Beethoven was of African descent via Spanish Moors. By Jim Crow standards, Beethoven was a black man (though, likely not by current standards). It is a recorded fact that Alessandro de'Medici, a prominent renaissance politician whose patronage played an important role in the arts of his time had a black, moorish mother as was referred to as 'il moro' (the moor). Alexandre Dumas, who wrote 'The Three Musketeers' and 'The Count of Monte Cristo' was the grandson of a black Haitian slave. Alexander Pushkin who is credited by many to be the father of modern Russian literature was black. The first American woman to be a published poet was black. ' Most renowned authors ' is an extremely cultural phenomena. For example, have you heard of Murasaki Shikibu? He is credited with writing the first real novel and his work had massive cultural influence both in his time and in modern novels across several nations and is translated into dozens of languages. The fact that you know Twain and not Shikibu is because you were raised in a cultural dominated by European ethnic groups. Shikibu is likely known to a much higher number of people worldwide, they are just Asian people instead of Europeans, so he is off of your radar. It is important to consider the fact that the reason you don't know non-white artists is because you live in a culture that actively ignores quality black novelists. I challenge you to read books by Langston Hughes, James Baldwin, or Ida Wells-Barnett or any of the other great unsung black novelists. Charles W. Chestnut in particular was known for complex narrative structures, political themes, and psychological complexity that was appropriated by many famous white writers of the twenties and thirties. Did you know that a black slave was the artist who created the sculpture that decorates the top of the US Capitol building? And what about precolonial African art, not the least of which is the pyramids and the Sphinx. The first Pharaohs of Egypt came from the middle of Africa, they weren't white people. Ever appreciated any Spanish architecture from before the late 1400s? You do know that the Berbers who built those palaces in Spain were the very black ancestors of the also black Moors?

    As I am sure you know, disagreements about what constitutes good art often have no basis other than personal opinion and cultural bias. What makes classical music superior to jazz or blues (btw, what is Mozart's Requiem by an expression of pain?)? I strongly prefer Ma Rainey to the Beatles. 'Beautiful music' is a pretty subjective term. How is this guitar solo by BB King http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ny5ajCn0xw inferior to a Chopin piano solo? Your friend is presupposing that art created by white people and European cultures is superior. There is no objective fact to the matter of whether Dickens or Baldwin was a better writer. We can discuss influence, language uses, etc., but so much of how we determine art quality is just opinion.

  • 1 decade ago

    Ask him what defines race then how those things determine all the things he claimed each race is good at. In reality he can not give an answer to that eg race is based on physical traits such as skin tone, facial features and hair texture otherwise all humans are identical. I dont know how any of those can determine anything he claimed. Also the beatles were rock artists and rock has its origins in the African American communities rock and roll has he not heard of Jimmy Hendrix. Some people also claim Beethoven was biracial (black & white) I dont know if its true though. Also doesnt he know Michael Jackson is the best etertainer of all time? Then you would have to state to him for those things he claims be exclusive to one race it has to be impossible for a person of another race to replicate it eg an south Asian or black person can learn classical music same way a white person can perform rap music eg Eminem and he is good at it so then those things cant be exclusive to a certain race.

    Unless all black people are good sprinters he can not claim black people are good sprinters.

    Unless all white people can compose classical music he can not claim white people are good at classical music.

    Basically you can not generalize or stereotype a race because race is based on generalizing people on certain physical traits but as long as you cant generalize 100% of those people on other things eg sports, intelligence, creativity etc you cant possibly claim such nonsense.

    Your friend is racially prejudice a form of racism where the person is ignorant about the socially contructed concept of race.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Is this question just a thinly disguised attempt to convince people that whites are superior? I mean, you've given some pretty detailed reasons.

  • miliam
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    good you humans cry for equality for all through condemn racism and many others and many others out of your racial neighbor and while anyone does not appear such as you and he step on your territory the humans begin asking dull questions like; who is that man? why that man is right here? and many others and many others good equality with out the racism does not paintings in that method and you are going to on no account have it seeing that your distorted and false mentality I individually assurance that ethical: you are all a host of racists and also you turn out it each unmarried day of your lives with on-line,tuition,office,trolling and bullying perspective base on humilation,discrimination,racism all that seeing that you feel is a laugh and the ill facet you relatively revel in doing it the humorous facet is while anyone achieve the factor wherein he/she are not able to take anymore and he/she snap right into a taking pictures rampage or to a suicide then humans will give an explanation for that through say oh he/she used to be intellectual in poor health yeah he/she used to be intellectual in poor health and also you made emerge as intellectual in poor health along with your shitty perspective ..!! then you definitely assholes speak approximately a brand new gun regulation seeing that that's the one purpose to why humans do loopy stuff it is not seeing that you deal with a character like **** for years along with your shitty perspective like I say earlier than you humans cry for equality for all and less racism for then deal with humans in the way in which you do good you will not get it....ever!!!!

  • 1 decade ago

    I wouldn't argue with him he has all right to believe what he wants. As long as he isn't going to harm them I don't care.

  • Just tell him he's stupid, because he is, and that everyone has a right to their opinion...then kill him with kindness. This is a stupid answer but I'm bored, and need the points.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    the question is why even bother ?? don't waste your time arguing with close minded freaks

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I wouldn't call him a racist; I'd say he'd made a very good point, and I'd buy him a beer. No, a bottle of scotch!

    God Bless The People of Europe

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