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Other horses in herd won't let my horse eat, suggestions?
I just started boarding one of my horses at a new place. We kept him in the barn for a couple days with it wide open so the other horses could come over to the gate and sniff him and they all get to know each other that way. When we let him out in the pasture everything was fine, no one gave him any trouble. The only trouble he's having is that the alpha gelding and mare will NOT let him eat, even a bite. Every time he comes up to the feeders (they get hay in the morning and at night) if he tries to approach any of them they will chase my horse away, and they will continue to do so until all the horses are done eating and there is no hay left. he's like getting ravenous hungry and we have to feed him inside because he will not stand up to the 2 alphas in any way. How can I help this situation so he can eat? I'm worried about him for he is an OTTB and needs to maintan his weight (he also gets grain inside, but he obviously needs hay as well like any horse, there's no grass right now for its been raining so much everything is pure mud). please help me out any tips? thanks!
about asking him to be in a different pasture, I can't do that for it's a small and private facility and there is only one pasture for feeding and the only pasture he keeps them in until the grass grows. it's not a huge boarding facility with a lot of horses, just a small handful a mix of mares and geldings.
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- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
You can't overpower a horses natural instinct to be the top of the pecking order!!
If you can't have him in a separate paddock, then can't you separate him for a couple of hours so he can eat his breakfast?
Or put the feed somewhere else. Spread out the feed so there are three different piles at opposite ends of the paddock.
You and your barn owner/whatever know the facilities you have to deal with this problem..! so talk to them about it.
Goodluck :)
- jamesLv 44 years ago
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He either needs to be separated to feed or put in a pen with more submissive horses.
The last place I boarded used to take square bales and throw them around the pasture in about a 150 foot circle. This way horses that were dominant would have their pick and there was also more piles then horses so no one could hog. Even the old submissive mares will still fat and happy. Now my mare is on a round bale but she only shares with three other horses.
Talk to the barn manager, is there a chance he can be separate so he can eat? Some horses will just not stand up for themselves. Maybe you can move him into an adjoining paddock so he can share the fence line with these horses but he will not have to compete for food.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
well since yer keeping him in a small boarding facility u could ask them to put hay on several different sports that r spread apart. 1 pile about 4 flakes of hay equal to the number of horses in the pasture. and another thing introducing a horse takes at least 2 weeks not days. if the r going to introduce a horse in then they can put 1 other horse in the barn with him for a whole day (or at least when every one else is grazing ya know?) and do this at least twice with ever horse in the herd.
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- DianeLv 45 years ago
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- zakiitLv 71 decade ago
The only way to do it is to feed his hay indoors and THEN let him out, or another way, though not perfect is to put piles of hay well apart and put two or three extra piles more than the number of horses. It is a sad fact of life, but alphas will do this.
You could ask if your horse can go out only without mares, ie with geldings only.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Ok sometimes when a horse is put into a new group the horse won't stand up for itself right away and sometimes what helps is if you put your horse in with just 1 other horse then once your horse can eat with 1 then add 2 then 3 etc. that way your not outnumbering your horse right away let him make friends one at a time that's how i do it when i have to introduce one of my horses with a new group. hope i helped good luck =)
- 1 decade ago
You can put out enough different piles of hay so there are a couple more piles than there are horses. Or you could take him out and feed him. That way the other horses can't get his food.
I hope you find something that works.. :)
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I would try feeding all of the other horses first and then your horse. Feed him separately from the others, and chase them away if they come near. There is no way that I know of for you to raise his position on the pecking order. Older and skinnier horses are often driven away from the food by the herd. The only thing I know to do would be to feed him far away from the other horses.
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tie up the alpha gelding and let your horse get to know the mare and try to see if the alpha mare lets him eat and maybe the reason why the alpha gelding is not letting him eat is because that he's afraid that he will try to steal his mare and herd and also if they don't fight bring your horse and alpha gelding together with lead ropes and see what they do and if they start to fight just walk away and repeat the same with mare too
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