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Brian Joubert Patrick Chan World figure skating championship?

Do you think it was fair that Chan got the silver and Joubert only the bronze? Joubert's free skate wasn't a perfect one, but nor was Chan's... He didn't land any quad at all, I know that the new system doesn't really reward quads, in some cases it is just better to drop doing quads, you can still win without one... Don't you think the system should be changed, so that in cases like this could be avoided, and make figure skating the sport it was before, not only an art? I'm desperate, Joubert is my all-time favorite, and I think Chan is ALWAYS overscored...

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  • Sam S
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago
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    I was perplexed by that do. As Plushenko so rightly states "I guess the new scoring system no longer values the quad." I think that Joubert should've been gold b/c he had 2 quads in his long program, Takahashi silver b/c he did a quaad but it was 2 footed. I wanted Michal Brezina as bronze b/c I really like him and his style. He's going to be great in the future but he's only 19 his first year in senior so his time will some. Patrick Chan fell and he didn't he attempt a quad.

  • 1 decade ago

    No, I don't think so - Joubert did much better under the old judging system because he didn't have to worry about planning a program. Frankly, he could improvise and still win back then.

    Today's judging system rewards skaters who put difficult elements at the end of the program, when they're the most tired. Chan and his coaching staff know that and worked it to his advantage.

    It's not about what you see and feel - it's about how well they skated and planned. Clean skate = didn't fall. That's not as important anymore; not falling but popping out of jumps without the complete revolutions give away points over and over. They add up and open the door for another skater to pull ahead, which is what happened.

    Quads are so overrated and rarely executed well enough to be remarkable. They don't get enough points, but even those quads that are being performed are underrotated, have edge violations, and cheated takeoffs. If IJS ups the point values for quads, it also needs to enforce the rotation and GOE rules consistently.

    Honestly, if one big trick like a quad could tilt the balance and let a badly-planned and executed program win, it will totally destroy figure skating as a spectator sport.

    Look at the judge's scores on the http://www.isu.org/ website and you can see how Joubert gave away points.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    I really just have to mention Yuzuru Hanyu. His free skate was absolutely breathtaking. He had the fluke fall on the transitions but I really think it added to the emotion of his performance. I was so happy to see him make the podium at 17. He has such a beautifully clean and consistent quad and with practicing so much less than other skaters at his level. His program literally brought tears to my eyes which has never been something that I have experienced from a program that I was not a part of. It was pure beauty and perfection. And then of course he was adorable during the awards ceremony! I thought Daisuke Takahashi should have won but I was happy to see the Patrick Chan was not as far ahead as he usually is even with mistakes. When Chan blew that last triple axel I knew it would at least be closer. Had Daisuke not fallen in the short I really think he could have won. I have never seen a figure skater skate with so much swag before. He just popped off every jumping pass as if he could do it in his sleep. I really liked his music and choreography this season and was happy he at least got the silver like expected against Chan. I am rather sick of watching Brian Joubert perform the same 6 programs over the last 12 years or so. But he was very impressive in his free skate. I do think that he was placed where he should have been. Alissa Czisny had a horrible skate in both programs and it was heartbreaking to watch. Personally she is not my favorite skater because she tends to give up after the first or second mistake and she is very inconsistent. But she went for every jump in her free skate even though she was unable to complete any of them particularly well. I hate to say it but I think the USA should have sent someone else to worlds based on how poorly she skated for the majority of the season. She sort of got lucky at nationals and skated clean. It would have been nice to have seen Agnes or Caroline go. Overall the ladies were full of surprises. I was so happy to see Alena Leonova skate her short program so well! I have loved that program and the energy she puts into all season (even though POTC is terribly overused). Kanoko Murakami skated beautifully and is fun to watch because you can see the joy on her face. I wanted her to medal but not as much as I wanted Ashley on the podium. I was extremely upset that Akiko Suzuki got third and not Ashley. I don't really like Akiko at all I really have no explanation of why I feel this way. I did not watch pairs or ice dance because I was too busy with homework and I am more into the men's and ladies this season.

  • 1 decade ago

    Yes, I think Joubert deserved the silver because he landed the quad....but the current scoring system is all about pushing the artistic so don't hold your breath for them to increase the value of a quad.

    Personally, I'm all for just separating the athletic from the artistic. (No, there will never be a "perfect merging" of the two...That is ridiculous). For goodness sake, just make two different events.

    Add an extreme event where athletic elements are emphasized and skate it to rock music (like snowboarding). Hardest series of tricks wins. Period. (Backflip is worth a triple. 3-3 combo beats backflip. 3-3-3-2 combo? Good for you! 4-3-3-2. Better for you. You win!! etc.) Only allow forward/backward and simple turns between the skating, just enough to set up the next element. No choreography or interpreting the music.

    Leave the traditional "figure skating" for the "artistic" camp. Lots of spirals, acting and arm flinging. Gaudy costumes....maybe even a triple jump every now and then. (Since the real jumpers will probably gravitate over to the athletic event.) Now everyone is happy. This is also a way to get more boys into the sport since they will be more likely to join an event that didn't try to make them into ballet dancers on ice.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Chan does not always get over-scored!

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