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Spiritually speaking, if you REFUTE someone's argument, what does "refute" mean?

I see the word "refute" bandied about liberally on this and many other forums, and it is commonly misused, even by national newspapers and TV news broadcasters who should know better.

Can we have votes please:

a) Deny

b) Dislike

c) Disprove

Update:

William, the second definition in Merriam-Webster is new, then, as it does not seem to be a valid usage in English English. As it seems to be valid in American English I'd be interested to hear from Australians and Kiwis about their local definitions.

It's like the joke about the Englishman (my dad, actually) who panicked when the pilot said we would be landing in Chicago "momentarily". He rather wanted to get off. In English English, momentarily has only the definition "for a brief time".

Update 2:

Sweet Sugar, I presume you are trolling, but if not please look it up.

Bob, are you American, by any chance? In English English refute and deny are not synonyms, but it seems in American English they are.

Update 3:

Random Panther, you/re labouring under the misapprehension that we speak the same language in the UK, the US, Australia and New Zealand. We don't, and, moreover, much American English is actually more "original" than what we now speak in the UK.

The usage "got" and "gotten", which is archaic in British English, is still much in use in the US. And Webster's is considered to hold the same position of authority in American English as the Oxford English Dictionary does for British English.

Update 4:

Black Mack, you fail by your own admission "without looking it up". Even in American English the preferred meaning is to disprove or render null by argument or evidence.

Update 5:

I looked this up in the Concise Oxford English Dictionary, and the definition has changed since 2007:

refute

/rifyoot/

• verb 1 prove (a statement or the person advancing it) to be wrong.

2 deny (a statement or accusation).

— DERIVATIVES refutable adjective refutation noun.

— USAGE Strictly speaking, refute means ‘prove (a statement) to be wrong’, although it is often now used to mean simply ‘deny’.

— ORIGIN Latin refutare ‘repel, rebut’.

Update 6:

And right now I'd love to choose a best answer, but for some reason the button is missing. DOH!

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  • 1 decade ago
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    refute

    Main Entry: re·fute

    Pronunciation: \ri-ˈfyüt\

    Function: transitive verb

    Inflected Form(s): re·fut·ed; re·fut·ing

    Etymology: Latin refutare to check, suppress, refute

    Date: 1545

    1 : to prove wrong by argument or evidence : show to be false or erroneous

    2 : to deny the truth or accuracy of <refuted the allegations>

    — re·fut·able \-ˈfyü-tə-bəl\ adjective

    — re·fut·ably \-blē\ adverb

    — re·fut·er noun

  • Refute simply means to "prove" something to be false or untrue.

    I think after reading the various contexts that this word has been used, I understand how this word could easily be twisted to "certify" a POV without actually providing proof or evidence that something is false.

    I think in the future, any evidence I usually give isn't necessarily proof, but merely juxtaposition, (which I prefer to use as my source because I arrive at my conclusion after weighing available evidence provided to us by human nature & typical human behavior associated with any attempt to validate a contradiction prone ideology, dogma or agenda driven mantra) it makes more sense to provide a basis for arriving at a conclusion rather than merely stating that because one person or a group of people agree to a flawed idea, then somehow, that's all the "proof" required to use the word refute?

    Source(s): Juxtaposition
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    i agree with the asker to the extent that i am old (and educated) enough to use it to mean c, but obviously many people use it to mean a, and attacking either dictionaries or americans won't change facts. we just recently had another question about differences between american and british english, where it turned out, predictably, that the alleged british forms were simply the OLDER forms. languages change. i don't personally like many of the changes, but that's the way it works. oh, and the endless attacks on american english are oh-so-funny. please, sir, can we have some more?

  • 1 decade ago

    Overthrow by argument,evidence,or proof.

    Dictionary definitions are not up for debate or voting. They mean what they mean.

    Webster's dictionary is an inferior bastardisation of the English language.

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  • 1 decade ago

    c, effectively, or make meaningless.

    It does not necessarily disprove it; nullification is sufficient.

    Edit:

    I also agree that 'deny' is not an acceptable use, as that results in a subjective opinion of negation, while refutation must result in an objective invalidation.

    Words like 'gotten' are folksy and quaint, but are still unambiguous and commonly understood internationally.

  • 5 years ago

    Spiritually speaking, it means to speak spiritually without actually speaking spiritually at all so the R&S police will be fooled into thinking that a non-spiritual question is actually spiritual. Something like that.

  • Paul B
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    Are you sure Y! Answers is really the best place to come to ask this?

    I would have thought, oh, a dictionary, or something would have been a good first stop.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    c because you need evidence in order to be able to refute someone else's claim or theory

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    It means "to prove wrong by argument or evidence".

  • 1 decade ago

    If you refute someone's argument, you are doing (c). i.e., overthrow by argument, evidence, or proof

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