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ZoserII asked in TravelAfrica & Middle EastEgypt · 1 decade ago

Egypt: Why do the recent Egyptians relate all their problems to the west, although It came from the east?

The three major declines in Egypt's history came actually from the east,,(including the ottoman empire),, we are relating most our trouble to the west, although the British occupation did far less to Egypt , than what the Turks did? Is it a complex,, or sort of a brain wash since Jamal Abd el Nasr,,While Mohamed Aly depended on the west to build Modern Egypt After its huge decline, Egypt got poorer since the (east ) found us?and we were treated the worst from this side?

That is a thought after reading Muslima answer,

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlrZu...

Update:

well< Ya Muslimsa,, in Mohamed Aly era,, we imitated the west more,and yes there was a brain washing to the Egyptians as lovely diamond said, the disaster came from the east, one of that disaster , as the first answer claim, brain wash people with a fake religious idea,, as if Religions is an east thing,,they used that excuse always to (yanhabokok),,,anyway,, It was just a thought,, because we should read Real history to judge,,,we are not composing a nice piece of Mado3 ensha,,,

(of course you know how favorite your answers to me !!!!)

Update 2:

The Turks fought the Egyptians, and the rest of the area,, and this area was already Muslims,,, what shirk the first answer is talking about????? Actually they were the ones who sold Us after (robbing the rest we have ) to the west,,,

Update 3:

The Omaween robbed Egypt, and they even did not want the Egyptians to be Muslims (but Amr ben abd el 3aziz),, Egypt was an open save for el 3abaseen, and read that during el Fatmeen era:انت أول ثورة شعبية فى مصر الإسلامية فى عهد الدولة العباسية وفى زمن ولاية عيسى بن منصور.. ثورة قام بها البسطاء والفقراء احتجاجا على الفقر والحاجة والغلاء وجشع الحكام والولاة والعسكر ورجال الشرطة.

وقسا المأمون على الثائرين وعاقبهم بشدة.. فقتل الكثير من الرجال وأسر الكثير من النساء والأطفال.

ان خمارويه شغوفا بالنساء وبالحياة الناعمة.. وحين تزوجت ابنته قطر الندى من الخليفة العباسى المعتضد.. بالغ فى تجهيزها إلى حد إفلاس مصر كلها لتذهب ابنته إلى بغداد بالذهب والجواهر التى ليست لها قيمة.. وبثياب داخلية تكونت من ألف تكة ثمنها عشرة آلاف دينار وعلق فى كل تكة جوهرة بحجم بيضة الحمامة..

Update 4:

بتأسيس الدولة الفاطمية فى مصر

المستنصر بالله.

جاعت مصر كما لم تشعر بالجوع أبدا من قبل.. غاب النيل ومات الزرع فى الأرض.. ولم يجد الناس ما يأكلونه.. فأكلوا جذوع النخل وجلود البقر فى أول الأمر.. ثم استداروا يأكلون القطط والكلاب حتى قل عددها وشح وجودها.. فبيع الكلب بخمسة دنانير والقط بثلاثة.. ثم بدأ الناس يأكلون جثث الموتى.. ولم يعد هناك مفر من أن يأكل المصريون بعضهم بعضا.. فكانت الناس تجلس فوق أسطح بيوتها مجهزة بأسلاب وحبال.. فإذا مر إنسان قريبا منهم.. ألقوا عليه بحبالهم.. فقيدوه واقتطعوا لحمه وأكلوه.. وكان الرجل يسطو على بيت جاره فيسرق طفله ويأكله.. بل وكان الكلب يدخل الدار فيأكل الرضيع فى المهد ووالداه ينظران إليه لا يستطيعان المقاومة من شدة الجوع..

Of course during the Turk era,, another chapter of more disaster,,, Read the real History to know that our blood was sucked from the east more than the west,,, even later with the Russians,,,,anyway...good day

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    The negative effects of the west are closer to our memories and very well propagated by the media.

    Also, school material, especially in social studies focuses a lot on the effects of the west and of course how the 52 revolution saved the day.

  • 1 decade ago

    we where fine most of our history

    tell romans occupied egypt,,then islam came from east and saved us from roman humiliation

    and al7amdo lellah 3ala ne3mate aleslam

    about the starvation

    it had nothing to do with the east

    and then came 1952 enkelab 3askary not thawra

    which caused the disaster we are living tell now

  • 1 decade ago

    law makansh el nas mokhaha ta3ban , east west north south , makansh 7aga asaret feehom.

    elli mokho ta3ban howe elli akhad all the negative aspects of the east and west.

    we took nothing positive from any where .walla hata men el sama (religion wise)

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    uhmm...aww iam glade i provoked ur thoughts :P...lol

    anyways, actually zoser i amnot that good at history..lol , but iam looking to reality , and the reality which i see in egypt is soo much afected by the west culture and technology...ofcourse we take the almost all negative side of it and lil positive and that what i ment by losing our identy...look at the young ppl.they are trying to imitate actresses , actors and singers from the westin everything , even those who supposed to be our cultural ppl of the society like the officials in the government they mostly imitate the west system blindly, the cultral ppl from actresses, actors ,writers , poets,...etc they are all affected by the west culture and in any interview they give examples from the west as if it is standard..lol ,even music became like that of the west ...u can measure everything in our society like wise.

    every thing in our community is becaming westernized negatively (sadly to say)and blindly....and also many arab countries are becaming westernized and affected by the west too.

    their culture is invading our minds ,lives and our society...

    even our taste of judging things is becoming changing everyday cuz of their standards...really ironic!

    that is how i see it.!!

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  • Caesar
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    My problems came from the Ex-Local presidents.

  • i hope u r not a muslim cuz it's the turks who saved you from the shirk level of hell

  • 1 decade ago

    you're not serious are you?

    Source(s): i don't even know how to apply batatis to this
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