How much Black Powder (777)?

I don't know if 777 is really the right choice for this particular gun. I tried using 777 in my muzzleloader and I found that it's a little bit more difficult to ignite than pyrodex. I think that 777 is best used in guns that have "hotter" ignition systems.....like inline muzzleloaders that use shotgun primers.

Anyway, with 777, you reduce your load by 15%......You don't have to reduce your load at all if you use pyrodex (vs using black powder). Your owner's manual should list the maximum charge allowable in your gun.

I am in agreement with the Toad here. Only a blithering idiot would blindly duplicate load data from a forum like this without consulting references.

Being something other than a blithering idiot, I checked Hodgdon's website about reducing the powder charge. Since they manufactured the powder, they MIGHT know about such things. I'm sure YOU would have thought of checking there eventually, since I'm going to make the charitable assumption that you're not a blithering idiot.

As others have suggested, reduce your charge (by volume) 15% from your black powder or Pyrodex load.

Honestly, that pistol is a lot more fun to shoot with a good load of Pyrodex or FFg black powder.

I have to agree with Cane Toad Mutiny to a degree. Asking for load data on an open forum usually isn't the wisest idea...

However, I can safely say that the possibility of blowing up a modern reproduction is *extremely* low... you would have to either use smokeless, or absolutely-positively-grossly overload it.

I've used 35gr. of Triple 7 in my 1858 (steel framed by the way), and while it is an absolutely stout load (and would loosen it up in short order), it will not blow up your 1858.

Thankfully, modern steels allow for hot charges in muzzleloading arms. It's pretty damn hard to KB a modern repro... that being said, you shouldn't set out for that goal...

(If it is indeed a brass framed gun, then keep your charges around 20 grains... and no more.)

OK cane toad, you cant get 50grns. of triple F in that cyander.........now a colt's dragoon like I have then yes.

about 25-27 grns of FFFG will work fine.(Black Powder)

Silly toad, every black powder charge SHOULD be a compressed charge. If not, your doing it wrong!

Let's suppose I'm a psychopath hellbent on causing some poor slob some serious harm. Now let's suppose I say, use 50grains of powder and compress the charge. Now let's suppose you actually pull the trigger on that load and blow your hand clean off. Who are you going to blame, me for telling you, or you for not researching it for yourself in a load book?