What do you think of arizona law sb1070 is it reasonable or not?

I think this law is very racist why is it that when you think of deportation or anything that has to do with immigration is always about mexicans and central americans. What happen to polish people or other white illegal immigrants because let me tell you that there are a lot of polish people who are undocumented but because they are white they are out of the question but if there is a dark person that looks mexican and suspicious, he/she might be deported. what the **** is wrong with you people that's a stupid law and it's not reasonable at all. This is "supposedly" "land of the Freedom" well I don't think so because you are tearing apart that lives of some responsible working hard people who most of them haven't committed a crime and I'm talking like they haven't killed or anything serious but just because of some stupid papers their lives are destroyed...that's not fair!! And you know that deep down. The only crime they have committed is cross the border for a better life because they can't have a descent life in their own countries and it's not their fault it's the government's fault.

Well to answer that we have to break down what are its legal implications:

*A first part of it says that it prohibits cities within Ariz. from having a "sanctuary policy." What a "sanctuary policy" means is that the police will not inquire on immigration status. The reason cities typically have this policy is they do not want people to be hesitant to report crime for fear that a relative, friend or themselves will get deported.

*A second part deals with lawful stops. This part has gotten a lot of criticism. The original draft of the senate bill 1070 actually permitted race, color and national origin to be able to be used by an officer so long as it wasn't the only factor. Because of complaint of racial profiling this part was amended. What it leaves, however, is determining how to develop the legal standard of "reasonable supicion" that said person is an alien unlawfully present. While the law now went from being facially raced-based to facially neutral, it can still be challenged "as-applied." This could happen if law enforcement officials only get non-racial cues of suspicion and apply them only to one ethnic group but not others. The complaints will inevitably then come, not from illegal immigrants, but from legal immigrants profiled. Also, you get the pesky issue of how you determine the status of a person since some people could be in an in-between stage. Say someone is facing deportation but is going through Immigration Court to claim what's known as a "Cancelation of Removal." The question then comes: Will police officers not accustomed to immigration issues but given limited training be capable of making such determinations?

*A third part allows Ariz. residents to sue their own gov't agencies if they feel the agency has any kind of policy that restricts the immigration laws.

*A fourth part of the law allows officers to place said detained individuls in custody if they fail to carry their immigration documents.

*A fifth aspect is that it makes it illegal for any person to give a ride to someone who is illegal. So for example, if a lady is picking up her child at school and there are other children there that happen to be illegal and they drive them home that could be a violation of the Ariz. law.

*The last part covers employers which requires them to use the federal E-Verify system to see if someone they're hiring is legal or not.

So the question of whether it's reasonable or not depends on the person analyzing the law. Personally I think the last part of the law is reasonable, but much of the law places undue burdens and allows for likely legal and ethical problems. That said, while gov'ts have a right to crack down on illegal immigration, the question should be whether the policies, statutes, etc. are both legally and ethically sound as well as hopefully not creating more problems for ourselves in order to accomplish their goal. I think reform is very much needed. This law if only applied to Ariz. will, at best, cause displacement (meaning perhaps the illegal immigrants won't come through Ariz. but will through the neighboring states). If it is applied throughout, there doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent for immigrants to not cross since their choices are often weighed as: risk being deported/incarcerated several times vs. not being able to provide for my family. The best deterrent in my opinion would be to strictly target employers so that lack of job opportunities lead to a diminishing incentive for them to cross over.

Not reasonable. At some stage it will be applied via racial profiling. Even if the law says you can't.

I am an American of spanish descent. I carry a license for id purposes. Do I have to carry my US passport now and will Blue eyed Mr. Smith carry his? Will he be asked for his citizenship papers?

I am an American and a conservative. I agree that all illegal immigrants should be kicked out or given a way to legalize their situation. When I say all illegal immigrants, I mean all illegal immigrants. Canadian, French, English, Mexican, German, Lithuanian and whoever over stays their student, work, travel visas or jumped the fence, swam across the river, got of a plane, or crossed the Canadian border. That said, I am of Spanish heritage, and if I travel through Arizona and I am pulled over and asked for my citizenship papers, they better have a good reason, because I will sue the crap out of the state of Arizona and their citizens for racial profiling, as the American that I am. They better ask everybody, including my fellow Americans of German, Irish, English ancestry,etc. I would encourage the red and brown native Americans, to start asking everybody for their papers.They should have done that at Plymouth rock, when the first "illegal" immigrants came and overrun their nations. Yes, they were illegal. This was not their land, it belonged (belongs) to the native Americans. Surprise, surprise, the original Americans did not want does people here either, with their funny hats and weird religion (sarcasm intended). If you have a NON-native American name, then you are an immigrant, or a descendant of an Illegal immigrant. FOB, Fresh off the boat or not so fresh, still off the boat grandpa came.

For instance, Smith is not a Native American or Aboriginal name. Smith is an English-language family name (surname)[2], and is the most common surname in the United Kingdom, Australia and the United States,[3] the second most common surname in Canada, and the fifth most common surname in Ireland. The surname Smith is particularly prevalent among those of English descent,[4] but is also a common surname among African Americans, which can be attributed to white American slave owners giving the name to black slaves during the era of slavery.

source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_(surname)

So, Mr. Smith... Mr. Hiawatha is deporting you back to Yorkshire or Dublin. Take your pick.

I don't have a problem, with the Arizona law, except it can not be enforced without racial profiling, unless you ask everybody to prove citizenship. From the pinkest one to the darkest one. EVERYBODY!!! Do it another way... bust the people that hire the illegals and make it impossible for them to get hired. While you are at it, bust the junkies and drug pushers (who happen to be non and American citizens) and put their asses in jail for a long time. So that there won't be a market for drugs here and that pesky drug trafficking problem will go away. Supply and demand. Junkies here need a fix and if they can't get a fix from rural America meth producer, they will import. The american business model.

If you don't think that we as an American society are capable of doing great harm to minorities and others, then please look at United States acts and laws based on race.

Forget the Nazis, look at our own illustrious history...

Slave in the USA - http://www.nationalcenter.org/FugitiveSlaveAct.htm...

Segregation in the US - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in...

KKK alive and well - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

Ethnic Cleansing of original Americans (Native Americans) -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

Concentration camp of Americans of Japanese ancestry -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066

killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki, including women and babies, toddlers, teens, women, elderly grandparents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hi...

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a long history and unfortunately because we forget history repeats itself.

These are the negatives and luckily we have thousands of positive and wonderful things in this country of ours. I love this country. I do believe it is the best country in the world. Please do not forget the horrible acts perpetrated in our name with our consent. We can have a brighter and better future. Fight for Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for ALL Americans.

I've heard it mirrors U.S Code/Law. Maybe the Federal Government should enforce its own law?

Very reasonable.