Atheists/Humanists/Secularists… When asked `why is human life important`... circular reasoning?

Our lives aren't significant. Each of us has one life that is important to each of us because we live through it, and we want to keep it as we don't know if there's another live after death.

And we value other human lives (IF we do) only because they are the same species as us, and thus we can empathise, or for selfish reasons, such as missing them.

Human life is only significant to humans.

first of all, questions which ask "why" are usually existential, at best, and fallacious at worst, so its a waste of breath.... "why ask why" is almost always the best response.

Keeping THAT thought firmly in mind... what do you mean by "important"? Important TO whom? relative to what?

whats missing here is a rational and meaningful question. There are literally BILLIONS of reasons why Human life is NOT important..... and at the same time, again, there are also BILLIONS of reasons why it "is" or "might be" or "could be to some other"

The more important question is "Is Gsd's existance important"... and the answer seems to be a) only if he is real, and b) only after we die and face the possibility of heaven.... til that moment, I dont SEE a big need for him.

You're making the assumption that human life requires external validation. We don't agree. We believe our lives are valuable because we value them. We don't need something outside ourselves to give our lives meaning.

Circular reasoning is when you use something to prove the troth of itself or assume the conclusion in order to prove the conclusion. That's not what we're doing when we say that human life is valuable because humans value it.

You assume that human life is only important if it's important to an outside source. We don't share that assumption.

A human life is only important to the other human lives it touches. In essence, humans are insignificant as individuals; they are only significant as a whole because they rule the planet at the moment. When we are replaced, or destroy ourselves, we will return to the insignificance from whence we came.

Yes. "We are humans who wish to survive" is the missing step.

From that, our own lives are important, as well as those around us in our society that is for our mutual benefit. As we are a social species, we rely on others around us, hence value their lives and well-being. That's mutual.

Think of the converse - if we didn't think our lives important, we would not try to preserve them as we do. We would have a much higher mortality rate, and likely become extinct.

So survival is the reason we value life. I thought that was rather obvious, though.

Within the human context, humans are important by definition. It's an axiom, not circular. Outside of the human context, humans are insignificant.

this isn't any longer around reasoning. around reasoning could be: "X therefor Y" "Y therefor X" This of course isn't around reasoning. this isn't any longer even an argument or a declare. the respond to this question is in basic terms subjective, and that particular answer has no logical flaw. "nonetheless can not see from this how this could differentiate us from the only life different creature have or the only life a particular plant would have." Why could it? this isn't any longer the question you asked.

nothing makes us important we're just here like everything else and could easily disappear , it humans who place importance on ourselves the earth was fine without humans and will be again , it don't matter what we're capable of , humans like to delude themselves that their important why that is i've no idea, like i said we're here that's all what we do in between is to satisfy the gery matter ,i doubt animals think oh yeah we're really important ,we're all important to each other in the scheme of things

Human life is important to us because, as a social animal, we exhibit altruism (both evolutionary and social) towards members of our own species. It's a survival trait: social species don't survive if they kill each other off.

That makes a lot more sense than "because [insert deity of choice here] said so".

The purpose of living is to reproduce. That goes for all living things.