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formarkiz asked in SportsBoxing · 1 decade ago

According to Forbes, Mayweather is the bigger money draw?

Mayweather was the 2nd highest paid athlete in the world in the past year, while Manny was 7th. Mayweather made $23 million more than Pacquiao. Does this change anyone's view on the 60/40 split? I think Manny realizes it was a mistake to take on Clottey, assuming that it would increase is bargaining power. Any other thoughts?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/412920-floy-may...

Update:

@Peter H - Mosley is not nearly as popular as DLH, Hatton, or Cotto. Trying to say Mosley is "extremely famous" is BS, Mayweather did more with Mosley than Pac has ever done with anyone, awards mean nothing when negotiating money.

Update 2:

@cm - when talking about money splits, money earned is the measurement used to gauge proper percentages.

Update 3:

@Nepster - before the Mosley fight I would say Manny deserves 50%, but gauging what Manny deserves based on what Mosley got is not what I'm doing. I'm gauging based on the results of the Mayweather/Mosley promotion. If Mayweather had established himself before the Mosley fight like he has now, it probably would of been 80/20 in his favor.

I think Manny thought he was gonna gain leverage by taking another fight before Mayweather, and it backfired.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Mayweather has ALWAYS been the bigger draw.

    You have been told this from me, Martin and many other writers on this site.

    Manny should of accepted the 60/40 to begin with, floyd is the bigger draw.

    Its always been that way.

    Floyd needs to grow a pair and accept this now though, if he dares to say no after Manny has agreed to everything, I'm flying to where he lives, and fighting him myself!

  • 1 decade ago

    Formakiz - Money earned is not determined on who gets the bigger split. It's popularity, who will bring in more PPV's because that's exactly what they're negotiating the split on. They're basically saying, I'm the bigger draw. Money earned, although a lot of times correlates to popularity, it's not always the case. Remember, May's his own boss? No one takes a cut of his money which is the reason that he was able to make that much more (Mayweather would have made more regardless, but his earnings would have been significantly less if he was under contract with Golden Boy or Top Rank). Regardless of how much money May or Pac made, there's no doubt that it should be either 50/50 or 52/48 (in favor of May). Formakiz, are you trying to tell me that Pac would only bring in 5% more PPV than Mosley since Mosley got a 65/35 split? Get outta here!

    In regards to Pac-Hatton...it wasn't 55/45, it was 52/48 in favor of Pac.

  • 1 decade ago

    I can't believe that any fight fan would try and make $ split arguments when the 2 fighters in question are the top 2 boxers in the world who have never faced off.

    Mike Tyson may be able to generate as much with a fight against Holyfield in 2010 as Wlad could against a #1 contender....does that mean Tyson should be able to demand some crazy split if he "WANTED" to take on Wlad?

    This isn't like when Oscar was the no 1 or 2 highest paid and the guys he was scheduled to go up against weren't anywhere near the list. This is 2 and 7 (apparently) so who is the bigger draw really isn't an issue - they are the 2 biggest in the sport. Floyd gets HBO pushes like no one else, he got the 24/7 lead in to his last 2 fights, where Manny only got it for the Cotto fight. That is the answer to why one generated more. HBO decides who the biggest stars are, it has very little to do with Floyd objectively.

    If Floyd backs out of this fight because of the split, I probably won't be able to be convinced that he wasn't completely afraid of losing to Manny - the 50% he stands to make against PacMan is at least 50-60% more than he could fighting anyone else on the planet, so it won't be a $$$$ decision.

    - ??? what are you talking about? I didn't mention Mosely.

  • JOE
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    1 decade ago

    Well Mayweather's high output is because he had fights with marquee star power already. Mosley was already extremely famous (It can probably be argued that allot of fans watched that fight to see Mosely finally shut Floyds mouth), and Marquez has an ENORMOUS Mexican following. I've also noticed that Mayweathers fights are HUGELY advertised ie, posters in Home Depot, Food for Less and on. And I wouldn't assume that the Pacquiao clan bet that a fight with Clottey would draw in bigger numbers, but that fight did show how much of a fan following he has given that nobody pays to see Clottey in anyway.

    I think to accurately gauge Mayweathers power in this case it to see his PPV draw and ticket sale if he were to fight someone with NO star power.

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  • 1 decade ago

    I would be a hypocrite if I saythe 60/40 split demand by Floyd was an act of avoiding Pac although I can say that the demand for the OSDT is. If I remember correctly PAC-HATTON was jeopardized too because of purse share negotiations and it first was Pac's camp refusing to settle for a 50/50 split even though they settled for it eventually. In other words Pacquiao simply gets a taste of his own medicine.

    @JP. Sorry. honest mistake.

  • 1 decade ago

    Lady Gaga was #4 on your bullsh*t list. I believe all this when I see it. I was always in favor of a 50/50 split but I also thought 55/45 in favor of Mayweather would have been good enough. I think you guys are jumping the gun on this.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Could Floyd draw 51,000 people to a stadium that was only meant for 40,000 against a opponent thats not well known. He might be a bigger money draw but not a fan draw.

  • Gatcho
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    to say that one of them deserve the bigger piece of the pie ... is like saying that it's okay for the fight not to happen.

    and let's be honest ... if none of this additional demands were placed on the table ... then the fight would have been done last december and the issue as to who is the better boxer has already been decided.

    so to continue supporting ... if not even pushing the other boxer to "yeah, you should demand this and that!" .... then push the other guy to "you should bend-over or else it's your fault the fight falls apart" ... is just plain wrong ... if not exhausting.

    they should just meet half-way ... leave everything to the commission ... and just follow the rules that is already in place like what the hundreds of other boxers are doing ... and get the eff on with it!

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    i've said this dozens of times 45/45 winner gets the 10% both are great fighters and deserve there share of the pie equally.

  • 1 decade ago

    mayweather has no real fans, i would like to see him fight clottey and see if he can generate a lot of PPV buys,

    he said he is the cashcow, Can he prove it without fighting big names???

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