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Climate Change Scientist CLEARED of tampering with evidence ...?
any comments ( pro or against the theory of Climate change ) ?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/02/2943...
"American climate change scientist Michael Mann has been cleared of manipulating his research findings.
The allegations arose in the 'climategate' scandal which erupted when emails between Dr Mann and other scientists were taken from a computer at the University of East Anglia in Britain and posted on the internet.
The Pennsylvania State University findings follow two other investigations in Britain effectively exonerating climate scientists accused of misconduct.
Dr Mann's data adjustment procedures in particular were called into question when private email messages between him other scientists were posted on the internet.
The Pennsylvania university received a number of complaints about its professor's conduct and it launched two separate investigations in response.
They looked broadly at whether Dr Mann had falsified, suppressed or destroyed data, or deviated from accepted research practices.
Both reports have now cleared the scientist and Professor Roger Jones, from the University of Victoria in Melbourne, has welcomed the findings." MORE ON THE LINK
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
The Brit legislature found evidence of a FAKE scandal
about bad data in England. Not only was there
no "climte gate", the British house of Commons
investigated and found that a fake scandal had been planted for
the press by conservatives.
- ?Lv 71 decade ago
Oh, DON'T tell George Bush, whatever you do. Or any of the pro-BP guys in Congress. They just might have to take back what they said, including their apologies.
As an aside, how the hell do you "take back" an apology?
Science. by definition, is self-correcting. It's the anti-scientists, ( the so-called objective hearers), that are the real problem. There are people on this site that don't like the idea that global warming could be caused by us. Tell me that when you're driving around in your SUV looking for something - ANYTHING - that looks like water. Beer is a poor substitute when you finally realize that alcohol makes your body lose water.
But your post just makes it plain that there is a war on knowledge. Just like there's a war on drugs, a war on poverty, a war on terror, (?), and a war on just about everything else. There's also a war on educated people that might just happen to know something of what they're talking about. Educated people make us think about stuff that we're not comfy thinking about.
God help us if we actually have to make a change in the way we live.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The National Institute for Climatic Change Research (NICCR) is sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE's)
The NICCR is managed and coordinated through five Regional Centers, hosted by PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY, Duke University, Michigan Technological University, Northern Arizona University, and Tulane University.
Do you really think Pennsylvania State is going to be fair and unbiased while they are receiving Federal funds from the Department of Energy for Climate Research?
If all the "Climate Scientists" admitted that Climate Change as a Result of Human activity has no basis, then we wouldn't need Climate Scientists and they would all be unemployed.
Do you really think Climate Scientists want to put themselves out of business?
- cadcommando2003Lv 61 decade ago
Once again, libs, environmentalists, and global warming mythers read a story, take only what agrees with their opinion from it, and ignore the most salient facts. You should have read this at the end of the article:
'Entirely predictable'
But John Roskam, executive director of the Melbourne-based free-market think tank the Institute of Public Affairs, says questions still remain over Dr Mann's research.
"This was not an independent review - this was effectively the university examining itself and the result is entirely predictable," he said.
"The university was highly unlikely to be critical of one of its most high-profile academics who has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in research grants."
Mr Roskam says the four separate 'climategate' inquiries - two in Britain and now two in the US - are all compromised.
"The reviews did not answer the questions about why data was missing; why data was not shared; why there hasn't been a full and open, transparent process," he said.
"Unfortunately many people still think that these reviews and processes are part of a general lack of transparency about the whole climate change debate."
So for all of your crowing about being vindicated, you still wear the stain of this scandal!
If these had been honest, objective, and probing investigations, the raw data used to create the "models" would have been compared with the data that was actually entered into the simulation and discrepancies WOULD have been found!
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog%E2%80%A6
Here is a small quote:
"Climate change progress has also been hampered by revelations that prominent scientists fudged their calculations to make a more convincing case that greenhouse gases are causing world temperatures to rise."
O.J. Simpson still claims he did not kill his ex-wife! Bet you believe that too!
Clinton still claims he "did not have sexual relations with that woman" and you probably gave him the benefit of the doubt even though there is a black dress with Clinton's "DNA" all over it in copious quantities!
There are 2 sides to every story and thankfully, the media is slowly starting to realize the the majority of us are sick and tired of the lib slant and want to hear/see/read OBJECTIVE news that tells the entire story - not just that which favors a particular political ideology.
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- mommanukeLv 71 decade ago
You're wasting your breath posting articles, whether they verify scientists findings or are new data. The deniers will not accept any facts that go against their opinion. We simply have to accept that, although they will whinge and complain about their grandchildren having to pay massive taxes, they don't really care if they have water to drink or air to breathe, just as long as gas prices stay cheap.
- THOMASLv 41 decade ago
In the words of Victor Meldrew: "I don't believe it!!" (Hope the TV series was shown in Aus) Only a joke£££££!!! following a gutfull of Glendower!!!!! To be reasonably honest, I haven't a clue and neither does anyone else if they care to admit it.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Did you read where it wasn't an independent review but the university reviewing the university? What conclusion did you expect to get. That would be like me investigating whether or not I was speeding yesterday. Of course I'm going to say no. How about an independent panel review and investigate before we let Mann of the hook.
- 1 decade ago
$$$$ O.J. Simpson did not commit murder
$$$$, and power= Obama does not have to go to court of his birth certificate, judge resigned! Also, he did not bribe anyone! Blagovich, or whatever his stupid name is, acted alone is auction of the senate seat
$$$$ and power= scientist cleared of tapering with evidence
People really are stupid! Has anyone ever worked in corporate, besides me? Do you know how cut throat and conniving these people are. Here is their though process: # 1 rule in emergency crisis is to shift the blame # Money= power=political pull= get out of anything, if for some rare, unknown reason that fails, refer to rule # 1
Does anyone have a clue as to how much money Al Gore has made off of this? Not to mention everyone that is getting their kickback. Do you know how much money has been donated to this?
If you were getting your share of this wouldn't you keep it hush, hush and sweep it under the rug. When I worked in corporate there was lots of falsifying of documents
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Nice try but the seal of approval came too late
- Anonymous1 decade ago
OK, what possible motivation does the university have to honestly prove that its researchers intentionally falsified data, especially when it is so dependent on government grants?