Jews, Who are Messanic Jews?..and do they have rights to aliyah?

To answer you, Many people, Christians and some Jews as well, erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. It is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child could be proved to be of Jewish Origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith, then that person will be considered fully Jewish, so long as that person wishes to identify solely as a Jew. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race, for example one cannot convert to become an Oriental or an African-American, one who converts to Judaism does, indeed, become fully a Jew. Similarly, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.

If the messianics claim to remain Jews, what do these messianics say about their supposedly "fellow" Jews? Messianic "Jews" will say that the real Jews are going to Hell because they don't accept Jesus. This means that the messianic "Jews" condemn to hell the very group of which they still claim to be a part. Does this make sense? That means that as soon as they become a Christian, as soon as they accept Jesus as their personal savior, son of god, and messiah, they then condemn what is supposedly their own group. But no one else who claims to be Jewish, no one else who does, indeed, remain a Jew, condemns his or her own Jews to Hell for their lack of belief in Jesus. Many churches do, indeed, condemn the Jews to Hell for not accepting Jesus. Talk about trying to have one's cake and eat it too!? To the Jewish community, it is ridiculous to claim one can be a Jew and a Christian at the same time, and knowledgeable Jews are not fooled.

Anyone who makes aliyah must prove they are Jewish. Saying you are descended from a Jew on an anonymous forum is not proof you are Jewish.

Asking who has a 'right' to make aliyah is an irrelevant question to anyone who is not in a position to rewrite the law. Jews who convert to xtianity are not eligible for aliyah. Gentiles who have patrilineal Jewish descent have found a loophole, because they are NOT halachic Jews but are eligible for refuge in Israel under the 'nuremburg' (i.e. Nazi) definition of who is a Jew.

Anything other than this is an individual opinion and that is not worth a shekel.

The majority Orthodox opinion, however, is that anyone who is an apostate (which includes some halachic Jews) should NOT make aliyah.

Messianic Jews (note correct spelling) = Baptists, who CLAIM to be Jewish and take on some of the trappings of Judaism, in order to convert Jews to Baptism because they can't STAND to think that there are people out there that don't believe what they do.

And no. Baptists can not claim the right of Aliyah.

And it differs from actual Judaism by being Baptism.

There is no "somewhat" about it. They are Baptists. It says in their mission statement that they are Baptists, and that their mission is to convert Jews to Baptism through subterfuge.

'messianic judaism' is evangelical christianity disguising itself in order to trick jews into converting to christianity.

their beliefs completely align with fundamentalist baptists, seventh-day adventists, and other reactionary protestant sects.

it differes from judaism in that it is a totally alien religion to judaism, with completely contradictory principal beliefs, and jews consider it idolatrous.

None of the three groups you mention are considered to be Jewish. "messianic jews" are considered to be a dishonest Christian misisonary organisation utilising lies and deceit to try and convert jews to Christianity. Donmeh are considered to be Muslims and Nazerenes Christians.

Can "messianic jews" use the law of return to enter Israel? Only those who are NOT halachicly Jewish and thus considered to be non-Jewish relatives of a Jew allowed in under the law of return. A recent (2009) court ruling stated explictly that only "messianic jews' that are NOT halachicly Jewish (in other words those that are not considered Jewish according to Jewish law) can enter under the law of return. Any "messianic jew" that was Jewish CANNOT enter under the law of return- this is stated explictly within the law of return that allows non-Jews that would have been prosecuted by the Nazis to enter under the law of return, but not a Jew who has willingly converted to another religion. So which "messianic jews" are able to use this loophole to enter Israel? Those with a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother who are thus not Jewish according to Jewish law! Yep- any "messianic jew" that enters under the law of return is doing so as a CHRISTIAN since that is what they are deemed to be from birth!

They are Christians not Jews

Messianic Jews believe in Jesus, but they still hold to many of the traditions of Judaism.

It's somewhat considered christian but differs from mainstream Christianity in that it combines Christian theology with selected elements of Jewish ritual and terminology

They are XIANS- that's it! They are NOT Jews!

They have NO right to an Aliyah.