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Is this harrassment and can we get in trouble for this.?
CAN SHE REALLY GET US IN TROUBLE--In our office we like to get together quarterly, this one woman does not like to join us because she don't drink and she likes to her own thing.
We also like to go out for mexican food and margaritas, she never comes out with us, she said she don't drink and she don't like mexican food.
Our new managers are Arabic and they want to inroduce us to their culture by going to a Hookah bar, this kill joy does not want to join us, so we have been playing pranks on her and really making it hard on her, I have heard she is keeping notes and may turn us in to HR, I know the managers make sure there are no witnesses when they pull pranks, so if she turns us in, would it be her word against us, when I work with her, I just smart off and never help her, I let her do all the work we area all in our twenties and she is in her 40's
Why won't she hang out with us.
9 Answers
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
And some folks will be calling this a troll question.
The first person to be sued will be your manager for "ageism" in allowing you jerks half her age to screw around while she does all the work. And I'm using the language she will use in her claim. She doesn't have to prove who is behind the pranks, tho she would be more able to do that than you realize. The fact that she is taking notes means that she DOES fully expect to bring a claim against the company for bullying behavior. Whether a hearing officer or the courts agree with her is a side issue to the likelihood of your manager being fired or re-assigned. Your new manager will then expect work from you and fire anyone who thinks the old behavior can be the new behavior. I'm going out on a limb here in playing prophet, but I really am only telling you the most likely result. How about you turn state's evidence and save your own hide? When I was in the state prison, they made very clear that the one who self-confessed got a penalty but remained employed. The ones they had to go after--especially the ones who lied--were fired without mercy.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
company sued. What kind of juvenile delinquents work at your company? She'll be able to win an age discrimination lawsuit, especially if she finds this board, which I hope she does,
If the woman doesn't want to do the things you do outside of work, respect her wishes and grow up. Perhaps she is an alcoholic and knows going in a bar could be fatal. Perhaps she has children, or a loved one at home that needs her care after work.
You 20 somethings seriously need to grow up; life isn't all about playing around, as the 40 something obviously knows.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
She doesn't want to hang with you after work, so what. Maybe she has better things to do that are a higher priority. That doesn't make her a kill joy, just a responsible person.
As for the notes, they can be traced back to the originators.
I hope you all get what you deserve.
Some people keep their work and social lives separate. And from what you wrote here, I would do the same thing if I were her.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I worked at the same place for 25 years. then Retired. This subject was always one of my pet peeve's. In the 70's and early 80' My company had a young work force. And it was a fun place to be.Many nights after work there were Huge poker Games, we had Beer in our Soda Machine. with an after five Button. So no one had to go out to get it. We had Party's once a month to celebrate High Earnings. Liquor flowed like water at these events. we took the car keys away from our boss more than once at these function's The thing was everyone was expected to be there. it was a quiet pressure "You Going to be here RIGHT?" I lived an Hour away from work at five I was ready to get the Heck out of dodge. So I would stay an hour and sneak out. I never understood why they forced you to be social. I worked with a lady much like the one you descried. and yes they can get you in trouble. In the 80's some one sent a male striper to our office for a girls 21st Birthday. He performed in the Lunch room and those who wanted to watch did. (Mind you it was down to a G- String. No big deal to me. it was funny.The lady in question who said she could get drunk just from the fumes of alcohol was not amused. She called the home office. and complained In A huge voice. need less to say that was the beginning of the end at work for any fun. she got smoking banned from the building. (Even though it was in one lounge) She got rid of the After five drinks in the machine. and everyone stayed away from her. If she dose not want to attend your get together let her go her own way. some people live to work. others work to live. The more you mix her in, the more she can report and IM sure she is taking notes. every job has one of these people.you would not force someone to come to a block party on there street if they did not want to attend. It should be the same way at work. let her go home, and you guys go party if you want. it will make it more pleasant for all concerned. ( And as Crazy as it sounds I worked for a fortune 250 company) Every thing as changed so much in the work place now.But Much stays ther same.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
I'd be careful. It definitely creates a hostile work environment, and unless your business is the top, she could contact the higher up folks, sometimes anonymously, and if they have to look into your portion of the business, a lot of you could end up in trouble.
I'd be careful about the other folks, too. If it's between their job and your job, they might tell the truth just to save themselves.
- 1 decade ago
I would say to respect her. If she doesn't want to go out, she doesn't want to. Don't make it hard on her because she has different interests to you. Maybe she's a recovering alcoholic? Maybe she's had a bad experience? Or maybe she just doesn't want to go out. Don't hassle her about it. That's a really horrible thing to do.
You could possibly get in trouble for it. I would stop doing do it, and apologise for doing it so far.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Let me begin by speaking about the legalities of your question. Some states, if not all, have passed laws reagarding issues like this. On top of state laws, there are also federally mandated discrimination policies! Now in addition to that, many companies in many states have violence free work place policies. By your own admission, you yourself are guilty of contributing to a hostile work environment for this woman! Yours and your co-workers actions would indeed be a direct violation of such policies. Additionally, the fact that you think there are no witness is a naïve assumption on yours and your co-workers’ parts. I would like to remind you that, in this day and age, electronic recording media combined with accurate record keeping is all it would take to have some pretty damning evidence of yours and your co-workers actions...and your bosses, whom you claim to be taking part in this, are opening themselves and the company up to civil liability and criminal prosecution! Another thing to think about, unless you have been living under a rock, have you not noticed the violence occuring in public schools, universities, and the workplace all over our country? Most of these tragic shootings are perpetrated by someone who had been bullied and harrassed relentlessly, until that person felt there was no other solution to end the ugliness around them but to go in and shoot up the place? Yes, what you and your co-workers are doing to this poor woman is indeed harrassment! In fact...you are all bullies!!! You are not a kid anymore...It's time to stop acting like one. I would like for you to take a moment and imagine what it must be like to be this woman that you and your co-workers have been personally attacking. How would you feel if it were you? Because, someday, it might be you. She may have her reasons, and they may be very good reasons...and often times, a persons reasons for not doing something is no one's business buy his or her own!!! AND what right do you or your co-workers have to try to force her to do something that she does not want to do? Who are you? Think of something you don’t like to do, and imagine some group of people asking you to do it, and then trying to pressure you to do it, and when that doesn’t work���they start harrassing you with pranks and making your life a living hell…talking down to you and being rude…How would you feel? Let me close this by saying... How would you feel about this if it were your mother who was being treated this way...? I would wish you a happy day, but I’m afraid you need to go earn one! Happy day to everyone else! --Val p.s. One more thing…this question you posted is good evidence against you and your bullying friends!
- ?Lv 44 years ago
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