GZ Mosque question--a different spin?

They are one block away from forcing them into a ghetto and making muslims wear bands on their arm with an Islamic symbol on. Jon is correct, where is acceptable? "not in my backyard" people disgust me.

I genuinely worry of the safety of any muslim wishing to pray there as is their legal right and also right to build on private land, it is their community too.

It's all nuts anyway. What's going to be built there is not a Mosque, but a Muslim community/study centre, which will include a place to pray. It's not being built at GZ, it will be a couple of blocks away. In the space between the community centre and GZ there is also a McDonalds, but does anyone care about that? You can't blame an entire religion for the actions of a few extremists, any more than you can blame the staff of said McDonalds for the actions of their *evil* corperation.

I dont see this as religious freedom. I see this as a gesture the Muslims are making. in the event that they actually needed to be as non violent as they say then they A might go away that website on my own or B make it a MULTI - religious middle. everywhere in the country muslims have used CHRISTIAN church homes to desire in til they could get a suitable mosque. WHY not have all religions meet there to tutor the international that they could get alongside and that's what they ultimately choose to co exist in peace. it somewhat isn't something greater desirable than salt in wounds and making a assertion. government money should not be used to construct ANY religious centers considering the fact that they so adamantly intend to make a drastic separation in CHURCH AND STATE.

Here is My View As Expressed in THis Video ( I Share same Views)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-g...

Yes The Muslims use American Most Sacred Grounds to want to Build Their 13 Tower with Mosque

We don't Big Difference

They used our own planes and immigration system against us. That is why it is so ingrained into our brains. They let us know in no uncertain terms just how fallible our system is, and no amount of security can make us safer. That site just enforces the fear we already have, and to put a mosque there is just rude. They have the right, but it is still rude.

America is proudly capitalistic. This is capitalism, kids.

If you don't want a Islamic mosque built on that property, buy it from the owners for more than what the Muslims are offering and the immediate problem is solved.

The greater problem, though, is where is the boundary between too-close-to-GZ and far-enough-away-from-GZ? If the next Muslim group wants to build a mosque on the next block out from GZ, will you protest that too? What about the next block out? The next? The next after that?

Marine Barracks need to be somewhere in Lebanon. So that's irrelevant. They are there at the invite of some portion of the government to help stablize what was a war torn country (those with US interests invited them - but that's still part of Lebanon.)

Who built the Kobar Towers? And what do they provide --- to everyone & the economy? (I don't have time at the moment to look up the details, so those are genunine questions.)

Building a Mosque in a spot destroyed by part of the towers (there's where the distance comes in) on 9/11 means making a bit of 9/11 about Muslim needs not to be hated -- instead of letting the victims be the focus. It has a familar feel to it, not a good one, on what some folks do (in personal life) to manipulate an argument & attack someone with a hurt & a point to make about it themselves... instead of dealing straight on. Now if the project had been announced with a huge memorial built in the front yard as the focus - it might have had a different feeling to it. After all, this is a site of 9/11 wreckage.

I'm all for Muslims dealing with the hate being generated in general, but this is making 9/11 about hate at Muslims, focusing on them. It's a slight of hand trick that's a bit underhanded. I'd like to see Muslims protesting this -- that's the only way it won't be built --- and that would do a lot for what's been claimed as the issue "hate at Muslims." Building this, won't improve that issue (the hate) which should be improved.

I like how I said it better here:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ans5r...

I don't have any visceral reaction or issue with Muslims around 9/11. I don't hold "Muslims" responsible - that'd be ridiculous. But I had a visceral reaction, that this group trying to build the complex, was doing it as a rub. I don't care to ignore my own instincts. I don't think these folks care about Muslims in general, or they'd do more to listen to their own communities reactions to it.

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FYI too, there is considerable less hate at Muslims, than at Jews. At a rate of about 6 at Jews to 1 at Muslims:

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"According to the FBI, there were 28 anti-Islamic incidents in 2000. That number climbed to 481 the year a bunch of Muslim terrorists murdered 3,000 Americans in the name of Islam on Sept. 11. Now, that was a hate crime. The following year, the number of anti-Islamic hate-crime incidents dropped to 155. The number has hovered around the mid-100s or lower ever since. Even one hate crime is too many. But does that sound like an anti-Muslim backlash to you?

In every year since 9/11, more Jews in the U.S. have been hate-crime victims than Muslims. In 2001, there were twice as many anti-Jewish incidents as there were anti-Muslim. In 2002 and pretty much every year since, anti-Jewish incidents have outstripped anti-Muslim ones by at least 6 to 1. Why aren't we talking about the anti-Jewish climate in America? Because there isn't one. And there isn't an anti-Muslim climate either. (Los Angeles Times)

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http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/24/opinion/la...

(Side note: It's not a great article, a bit islamicphobic in my opinion. But I've seen the stats before in official documents in meeting with the FBI on current incidents we needed to hire security for.)

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I will Love all with all of my heart, body & soul even if this gives my detractors the incentive and means to bring about my own personal destruction. I will not fail in my Love for the world.

If you would all remain so steadfast in Unconditional Love, the hate, the darkness, the emptiness and the desire to destroy others fades away. I pray strength and courage in Love for all.

Blessings

My spin on it is: There is not going to be a mosque at Ground Zero.

I don't see why a building already used by Muslims for religious purposes can't be converted into a more appropriate facility.