Why are men who are convicted of rape only given "cautions" rather than jail time?

OK, so, just for people who don't believe that your link is accurate, here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226530/10...

and here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4894726.stm

It seems that the caution is given not to convicted rapists, but to admitted rapists, probably as a way to save the government money on court fees and prison costs. The first article said that cautions were originally supposed to be used for minor crimes. Not, one supposes, crimes against minors. Ba-dum-dum. (NB: 66 U.K. rapists who admittedly raped children were "cautioned," and not given a prison sentence.)

In my state, we have mandatory minimum sentences--which carries with it its own special group of problems, and (I think?) would only apply in case of conviction. I'm not aware of any admitted rapists in my county being "cautioned" in this way; but it is pretty difficult to convict successfully. Anyway, it's sad that rape appears to be punished (in the U.K., anyway) under a set of rules designed for jaywalkers and shoplifters.

As I understand it, UK Police give a 'Caution' to a person charged with an offense, who has 'agreed' to plead guilty, but who has not yet been convicted of the crime prior to sentencing. The Caution is used in much the same way as an ASBO (Anti-Social Behaviour Order) and an AVO (Apprehended Violence Order) and is used as part of the PSR (Pre-Sentence Report) handed up to the Judge at either the Committal Proceeding, Pre-Sentence Hearing, or on the Sentencing Date.

Whilst a Caution is not 'technically' a conviction, per se, it will remain on your Police Record permanently and must, under certain circumstances, be declared to Police, Government Instrumentalities and potential employers upon request. For less serious offenses, such as shoplifting drunk driving the order is expunged after a period of 5 years good behaviour during which the person in question remains "NKP" (Not Known to Police).

Co-incidentally these three types warrants were originally devised as a means of protecting men from false, onerous or malicious prosecutions initiated by women. They enabled innocent men to remain free at large in society rather than suffer mis-prison and false imprisonment under a broad definition of Article 39 of the Magna Carta (No free man shall be taken or imprisoned.............except by the lawful judgment of his peers, or by the law of the land").

Some judges don't actually do their job; that's usually the case.

Point and simple: if you rape, you got jail. No given warnings. You know what's illegal.

VIVA LA RAZA!

Maybe on the tiny pacific island of Samoa, which is where this article is from.

In North America men convicted of rape go to jail.

So instead of posing your obvious troll question here, to people in a developed, first world country, why don't you ask the Samoans?

This is a classic example of feminist propoganda. Spouting off something they had to really scour the earth to find and then generalize to North America.

Your ******** has been called.

Mmmm . . . it could partly be because they''re kids?

See, sentencing a child at that age has massive ramifications. That's not justification, it's just that if you send a kid that age to young offenders, you're sentencing him for life. Give him a caution and do some work around the offending, it's better for him and society.

You can be sure that violent rapists get jail time, these days if a woman drinks and consents she can justifiably make a rape charge the following day, do we really want to send guys to prison to possibly be beaten, tortured and raped because of a grey area or soft rape? Also, going the register is a life sentence.

Oh, Ive just seen your example is from a country that doesn't have a well developed legal system.

disgusting comments on anything related to rape - as usual on YQA. gray rape, soft rape? somebody oblivious to the nature of rape. somebody not in the human race.

in cases of rape-

women are often not believed, resultig in cases not getting reported or investigated

victims have to pay for their own forensics

rape kits sit in closets, not investigated

victims have been jailed.

only 13% of cases result in prosecution

despite the number of unreported rapes, society is more concerned with false allegations

false allegations account for up to 9% of cases, yet this is blown out of proportion in the media & public, as other crimes also have high rates

the sympathy lies more with the "alleged" rapist - hence the focus on false allegations

the innocence project does not even list false allegation as the leading cause of wrongfully imprisoned people, yet this myth circulates widely

this myth serves to provide impunity in cases of rape and allows people to go on committing, with little fear of repurcussions

note the outrage with the suicide of the gay male b/c his roommate videotaped him having sex - - yet there's been little outrage of the videotape of the teen girl who was drugged , raped & videotaped (on facebook)

note the sympahty for prisoner rape, even stranger rape - but it changes considerably when the victim knows the perp (similar for domestic violence) this is indicative of male privelege - being able to do what he pleases to the female. compare stranger-committed crimes to family-committed crimes in the media. note how husbands "nice guys" "snap" and kill wives. nice? i dont think so.

to further nauseate you, we do the same with children- incest, child sexual abuse - we punish strangers, but we do not believe chidlren when they claim a family member abused them that's b/c children have historically been 'property' too. yet 80% of child sexual abuse - by someone known to them - moreover, cases of incest receive lighter sentences than cases of stranger-initiated abuse.

the victims rights movement is still young - there is still so much to overcome

why are men who beat their partner up only put on probation at the most? because the police force is ****** up im on probation for being drunk in a public place never hit nobody its the stupid police that do it my partner used to beat me i had my child taken off me because of it and they didnt do nothing except take me to a refuge he got away with everything cjs needs serious ******* re-evaluating

In a nutshell:

The first article: A woman gets drunk sleeps with a man that's also drunk; claims she is unsure if she consented and cries rape.

Quotes from the article: "For all she knows, she might have given consent. She certainly cannot remember saying "no". "

"But even if she did say "yes", she says she didn't mean it. She was so drunk that her consent should have counted for nothing. He must have known she was in no position to agree to anything."

The second article claims that 5% of convicted rapists are given cautions. With no links to the statistics to prove it isn't ********.

The third article takes place in south africa.

I really do not get what you are trying to prove, other than the fact that you are a liar.

Why do women only cry rape after a night of drinking if the guy is ugly? If he is handsome they keep quiet?