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'71 Chevy C/20 bogs and falls on it's face under a load. Idles fine. HELP!!!!?
I have a 1971 Chevy C/20 Custom Deluxe 4WD with one big problem; it bogs down and pops a lot through the carb when under a load of going uphill. The truck has a 350 crate engine coupled with a Rochester Quadra-Jet 4bbl carb. It had been sitting for a few years, and didn't run right even before that. There is new fuel in it, and I replace the fuel filter at the carb, and also the in-line filter. I have also removed the whole carb, took it apart, cleaned it, and replaced it, with no effect. I have also adjusted the secondary air valves, which I know is a common problem with the Q-Jet. I have also replaced the vacuum advance canister and vacuum lines.
The truck starts up perfect, and idles fines (maybe a little on the rough side, but not much). It is an automatic, and when you shift into Drive, and are very light on the gas pedal, the truck will run and drive pretty good up to about 40-45 mph. If given to much gas, or too steep a grade (and by too steep, I mean a very slight incline, and for big hills, forget it) the truck starts popping (sounds like it's through the carb), and loses almost all of its power. I really don't know what else to try, as I'm not very good with older engines.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I would like to see this classic American truck running and driving like it used to, and not sitting and rotting away.
Thank you for your help.
Drew G.
8 Answers
- slipstreamLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
sound,s like a vacuum leak or bad exhaust gas recirculation valve [ E.G.R.] ...remove the valve & check for carbon deposit,s as well as diaphragm integrity. check all vacuum line,s,hose,s including brake booster hose & valve. a vacuum gage will help. check timing as well as mechanical fly weight timing advance in your distributor. check all gasket,s that seal off vacuum..especially the intake manifold gasket..squirt some oil around the mating surface while running..if it suck,s it in you have a faulty gasket....also double check valve rocker adjustment,s...if your running stock ignition...replace cap,rotor , point,s,condenser...this will give you Access to the fly weight,s for the mechanical advance so you can be sure their free & there are no loose spring,s...best of luck!..edit..to all that answered a possible cam shaft because there was a problem with soft metal shaft,s...that was back a long time ago & that would not cause a backfire...the lobe,s would wear down preventing the cylinder from recieving a proper air/fuel charge...then close the valve early...this would account for lack of power but not a backfire situation.
Source(s): 45+ year,s wrenching. - thomas hLv 41 decade ago
Small block Chevrolet engines have some camshaft issues. It is a combination of cams not being real hard, tight valve guides, and or a valve spring with too much pressure. An easy way to tell if you have a bad cam is to remove the valve covers, start or have someone crank the engine and watch the rocker arms, if one or more are not moving as much as the others, than the camshaft has badly worn lobes and needs to be replaced along with all of the tappets (lifters) and both timing gears and the timing chain. The reason it pops back through the carb under a load is, the exhaust valve or valves are not opening enough to let out all of the exhaust, when the intake valve opens the left over exhaust will blow past the open intake valve and cause the pop or backfire through the carb. At low speed or idle the exhaust valve will open enough to let out the smaller amount of exhaust gas.
It is not a hard repair, just time consuming, about 10 hours.
If your engine idles smooth chances are the valves are ok, but you should do a compression test before you take it apart just to make sure.
TOM
- steve hLv 61 decade ago
It sounds like you might have several small problems.
You say it's a crate engine,so will assume the engine is sound.
Check the ignition timing-this is important!
Change the PCV valve to eliminate the possibilty of a vacuum leak there.
Is this the 1971 carburetor?
Popping through the carb indicates a leal condition.
Check the accelerator pump.Remove the air cleaner,hold the choke plates open,and open the throttle.
You should see a steady stream of gas squirting in to the primarys.
If not then I would replace the carb if it's original.
Is the fuel pump new?
If the new engine never ran right then probably some old part was bad.
Hope this helps.
Sounds like it will be an easy fix.
Source(s): Old car guy. E mail me if I can help. - Uncle RedLv 61 decade ago
Popping is not a cause of the carb. it is caused by open valves when they shouldn't be, if there is a slightly radical cam in it this will happen, if not check the timing and I see you have checked the advance..
Your next stop would be to ceck the compression. I am looking for low pressure that would be caused by anything in the head from worn valve guides to poorly seated valves. since the timing can be manually adjusted I bet you set it slightly BTDC try as a test moving it towards TDC a couple of degrees if the popping lessens then you may have a worn timing chain. That's an easy fix. I am looking at intake valves either stuck partially open or closing late. Hope this helps and leave the carb alone it's clean as a whistle
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- JaneMLv 61 decade ago
its could be starving for gas. check the rubber lines at the tank to frame and from the frame to the fuel pump for cracks, sucking air. also the strainer in the tank could be stopped up killing your fuel flow. check the vacuum advance on the distributor. take off the line at the carb and see if you can suck the advance back and hold it with you tongue to make sure it is working. don't be squeamish, this is shade tree stuff. a stopped up exhaust can cause the same problem. a loose worn out distributor, wobbling bad, will also cause this.
- ?Lv 45 years ago
verify the rigidity practice-with the engine out of ingredients (stopped)are you able to change the shaft coupling by way of hand? If no longer possibly the grease contained in the strict tube has solidified or it is over tightened-whether that could be a stern rigidity attempt turning the prop by way of hand (engine out of ingredients and stopped) if there is extreme resistance the project is contained in the leg.
- chevyraceman_383Lv 71 decade ago
Carb backfires is the #1 sign of ignition timing off or worn cam lobes. Other things as well lick broke rocker arm and what not, but a broke rocker or spring would cause a pretty bad rough idle cond.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Accelerator pump?