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Shia: how could you accuse Sunnis of hating Ali (ra) in spite the fact that...?

we have narrated 661 hadiths from Ali (ra) and 539 hadiths from Omar (ra) in total?

- Musnad Ahmed contained 818 hadiths narrated from Ali (ra) alone! while it contains 81 hadith from AbuBakr (ra), 308 from Omar (ra) and 137 from Othman (ra)!!

This means that Imam Ahmed narrated more hadiths from Sayyedna Ali (ra) than those from the 3 caliphs combined.

How do you respond?

Update:

@99 the hadiths you mentioned are true, and they are authentic i guess.

Abubakr (ra) is the best, and then comes Omar (ra), and then either Uthman (ra) or Ali (ra), but the most reliable opinion is that Othman (ra) comes 1st.

Ali (ra) is a Sahaba, and a cousin of the Prophet pbuh, just like Ibn Abbas (ra), but for some reason you hate Ibn Abbas (ra) and love Ali (ra).

Perhaps if Abdullah bin Sabaa said "Thou art thou!" to Ibn Abbas (ra) it would have been lot different.

Update 2:

@Pedram: Lady Aisha (ra) narrated that share of Hadiths , CAUSE SHE LIVED WITH THE PROPHET PBUH UNDER THE SAME ROOF FOR YEARS!!!

How can we know how 2 make ghusl? and when? if you slander lady Aisha (ra), you slander the Prophet pbuh and Islam, cause abundant jurisprudential rulings were taken from the house of the Prophet pbuh, and only lady Aisha (ra) was chosen to convey this knowledge.

Lady Aisha (ra) did NOT fight imam Ali (ra), she went out to the battle to put some shame in the 2 disputing parties, but that did not stop the war and she regreted going out that day, but the Zionists Shia clerks never want you 2 know the truth about her, may Allah be please with her.

Let me explain the figures i have mentioned:

661 Hadiths were narrated by Sayyedna Ali (ra) in the following:

1- the 4 Sunan books

2- The 2 Sahih books (Bukhari and Muslim)

818 Hadiths were narrated by Sayyedna Ali (ra) in Musnad Imam Ahmed alone

479 Hadiths were narrated by Sayydena Ali (ra) in Musnad Abi Ya'ala

Update 3:

We Narrated 300,000 hadith from the Prophet pbuh (the greatest man in history), and you narrated 66 only, what does that tell you? Who are the true followers of Muhammed pbuh? who is the true nation of Muhammed pbuh?

Indeed, truth speaks for itself

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    do u really care about what shies think or do?

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    how does that prove you love him??

    according to Bukhari, Sunnis believe Imam Ali AS was just an ordinary man, nothing special

    Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 57 :: Hadith 7

    Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

    We used to compare the people as to who was better during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle . We used to regard Abu Bakr as the best, then 'Umar, and then 'Uthman .

    Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 57 :: Hadith 20

    Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya:

    I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?" He said, "Abu Bakr." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar. " I was afraid he would say "Uthman, so I said, "Then you?" He said, "I am only an ordinary person.

    but when it comes to the 3 taghoots, they were best of the best, even better than the Prophet himself sincd shaytan feared umar more than the Prophet

    loving Imam Ali AS and Mauwiyah is an oxymoron, u should also love Umar and Abu Lulu RA at the same time while ur at it

  • Shias do not accuse Ahl Sunna of "hating" Imam Ali (as)........

    infact there are many sunnis who visit the grave of Imam Ali (as), even if you go to Iran you will see Ahl Sunna in Mashhad, visiting the grave of the 8th Holy Imam (as) and seeking His (as) intercession......

    however, we do believe that you do not have enough love for the Holy Ahlulbait (as) and that you do not follow them..........

    look at bukhari.......

    it contains about 7000+ hadiths, almost half (50%) of it is narrated by 3 people.......

    1. Ayesha, who has narrated around 1200 (17%) of the hadiths

    2. abu hurraira has narrated about 1100 (15%) of the hadiths

    3. ibn ummar who has also narrated (not exactly but) as much abu hurraira (15%)

    17+15+15= 47%

    almost half of this book is only narrated by these 3 people......

    now look into the history of these people, why has Ayesha narrated so much? because she was the duaghter of abu bakr or because she fought against Imam Ali (as)?

    what about abu hurraira? is it because he was one of the companions of muawia who went in a war against Imam Ali (as), or is it because he only spent about 3 years with the Holy Prophet (PBUH&HF)?

    and what about ibn ummar? is it because he was the son of umar, or because he was amongst the first ones to give baya to yazid (Laeen) who fouht against Imam Hussain (as)?

    but think about the number of hadiths narrated by the Holy Ahlulbait (as):

    Imam Ali (as) (1st Holy Imam) has only narrated about 70 hadiths

    Imam Hasan (as) (2nd Holy Imam) has only narrated 8 hadiths

    Imam Hussain (as) (3rd Holy Imam), has only narrated 2 hadiths

    Imam Sajjad (as) (4th Holy Imam) has only narrated 6 hadiths

    and the name of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (as) (6t Holy Imam) who was the teacher of "your" Imams is not even mentioned in this book of yours.........

    btw, i would really like to check your numbers with some sunni scholar, because as far as i know, you only have around 500 hadiths from Imam Ali (as).........

    .....not mentioning your numbers contradict eachother, saying you have 661 hadiths of Imam Ali (as) while Musnad Ahmed alone has narrated 818 hadiths, the maths just doesnt add up..........

    Source(s): truth speaks for itself...........
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Anyone who curses Imam Ali(RA) is a kaffir .

    Shias (L)say Ali (as) Is a Mosquito

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  • 1 decade ago

    Why wasn't Ali(as) consider your RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPH until the time of Ahmed bin Hanbal?

    How do you respond?

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