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At what point can you tell if a dog is pregnant?
I put a deposit down on a puppy for a future breeding of two dogs back in the summer. The dog went into heat in September and her due date was today. I get a call last night from the breeder telling me that the dog never was pregnant! They artificially inseminated her and she gained weight. They thought she didn't look as big as with other litters but they assumed she was having a small liter. So they decided to take her to the vet yesterday and guess what? NO puppies.
I realize that not all breedings take BUT am I being unreasonable to expect that a professional breeder should have suspected that the dog wasn't pregnant weeks BEFORE the dog reached her due date. We were waiting to hear news of the puppies and instead we're finding out there isn't going to be any. I'm pissed! Should I be?
I am under the assumption that a professional breeder that has been in business for 6 years and has 8 liters a year should be able to determine a pregnancy in a dog a few weeks before the dog's due date. Is it unusual that it they didn't suspect that the dog wasn't pregnant until the date is was due to give birth?
My kids have been super excited about this dog for weeks. We were waiting to hear about a new puppy. When the breeder called we assumed it was to tell us that the dog had whelped her puppies. Instead it was to tell us that there never were any puppies. I don't think I would have been as mad if the call had come 2-3 weeks ago.
What is a BYBer? Just curious.
10 Answers
- SheriLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
What you have to understand is that not every tie or insemination will produce pups. These things do happen and is no reason to be pi$$ed.
Although if the breeder was reputable they would have had an ultrasound and x-rays done on their B*tch to verify a pregnancy and how many pups to expect.
Your kids will get over a pup not being born, I mean you wouldn't have been getting the pup for at least 8-12 more weeks anyway.
So you have some options...
1) Call the breeder and ask for your deposit back or leave the deposit and wait for a future breeding
2) I am not sure what breed the pup was that you were interested in, so contact your local breed club.. They will be happy to help you find a reputable breeder and possibly someone within their club may have pups you would be interested in.
Don't get yourself all worked up over something that you have no control, nor does the breeder.
Nature has a way of doing what is best for the Dam, possibly she was having a false pregnancy which can give the same signs as an actual pregnancy.
It makes no sense to be so upset when there are many other pups that would and need to be loved and to be a part of family.
Personally I wouldn't get a pup from a breeder who has been breeding for 6 years and has 8 litters a year.. That in itself tells me a lot. BTW just because somene has been breeding, it does not make them a professional.
To answer you question.....
At what point can you tell if a dog is pregnant?
At 26 days an experinenced vet can palpitate for pups..this is not always easy and most vets don't have the experience
At 5 weeks and after an ultrasound can be done
At 7 weeks on, x-rays can be done to know how many pups to expect. The further along a b*tch is the easier it is to see the pups on an x-ray as you can see their skeletons better.
ADD.....
BYB is short for Back Yard Breeder
Source(s): - Show breeder 25+ years who does limited breedings - 1 decade ago
Some dogs have false pregnancies. They even produce milk at the appropriate times. The only difference is there are no puppy movements and of course no puppies. But again if you only have 1 pup you may not feel it move. As an experienced breeder you do not always X-ray your girls for pregnancies- unless her due date shows up and goes by and no pups.
BYB is Back yard breeders. A species to avoid but there are many fallacies about who is and is not a BYB. Some people think anyone who breeds dogs is a BYB.
Ask your breeder how old her girl is and how were they determining her ovulation time? If she is too old she may be passed the age for breeding. Some girls give out sooner and some make pups a lot longer. But there is no way for a breeder to know for sure her girl is pregnant without doing expensive testing. If her girl shows signs of having been bred she will believe her to be bred until no pups show up.
And yes, you are being unreasonable about expecting your breeder to absolutely know for sure whether her girls are pregnant or not. The breeder is not God. They can only go by what they see or feel. Unless you want to absorb the cost of the testing involved. The cost of purebred pups is high enough as it is and expecting guarantees like this it will cost both the breeder and the potentially pregnant girl a lot of money and stress.
Chill and wait, or don't be so specific as to the parents of your potential pup. It may be they are not meant to be together.
- PamelaLv 71 decade ago
Professional breeders sometimes do make mistakes, but one that does not take her dog to a vet till the day it is due is not professional, they are BYBers. And not keeping in touch with prospective buyers is a no no.
As a 35+year breeder I stay in contact with my buyers, and my B*tches go to get at about 35 days of being pregnant. Demand your money back and find another more reputable breeder.
Oh and I do not like the method if using AI. because it has a lesser success rate then regular mating.
BYBer is a Back Yard Breeder and they are the lowest form of breeders just above puppy mills. Which it seems this one is leaning more towards puppy milling.
8 litters a year for 6 years that is 48 litters of puppies no reputable breeder breeds that many.
- Alesi's ChisLv 71 decade ago
You're talking about a business, not a good breeder. You should be thanking your lucky stars you dodged that bullet. Get your deposit back and take your kids to the shelter to get a puppy
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- ?Lv 45 years ago
Go get her spayed ASAP. It does now not subject is she is already pregnant, they're going to do an emergency spay. They global does now not want extra pit mixes. I love PBs however extra then part of the animal manage adoption middle is complete with them. They do not get extra then an afternoon due to the fact that they're PBs.
- ?Lv 41 decade ago
KH. Yes you should be Teed off. Evidently they (the breeders) didn't know what they were doing. I think that maybe you're getting spinned. I'd suggest you find a different breeder. I hope you didn't pay them. I hope that I have been of some help to you.
Everett
Source(s): Thirty years of raising and training dogs. - ?Lv 51 decade ago
Instructions.1.1Watch for sudden changes in the dog's appetite. An early sign of pregnancy is a decreased appetite. This usually happens in the first few weeks of the dog's pregnancy. She'll have an increased appetite as her pregnancy progresses.
2.2Notice if the dog's behavior changes. A decrease in activity may be a sign of pregnancy. Also see if your dog suddenly becomes either more or less affectionate. Dogs react differently to pregnancy, but the sudden change is the important sign.
3.3See if the dog's nipples increase in size. Early in a dog's pregnancy her nipples swell as will the tissue underneath the nipples.
4.4Look at the dog's abdomen if you suspect the dog is pregnant. A pregnant dog's abdomen looks firmer. The size of the abdomen does increase, but how much will depend on the breed and how many puppies the dog is carrying. Unless the abdomen is dramatically bigger, firmness is the better sign.
5.5Feel the abdomen. Any movement felt in the abdomen is a sure sign the dog is pregnant.
6.6Pay attention to whether she begins nesting. A pregnant dog makes a soft place to deliver puppies one or two days before she delivers. She might also be more restless during this time. This is the final sign she is pregnant.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
A singleton may difficult to diagnose by 7 wks.
"Pissed"? Why?
- 1 decade ago
Well after 1 month her nipples will get bigger and she will start to be more tired ,eat more and her belly will start showing at about 5 week. The problem is that sometimes dogs will have a false pregnancy after mating ,You just trust your gut . I must say some breeders are not the loving people you would expect them to be .A sad truth