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I have a few questions regarding The Queen and the Commonwealth.?
1) If I move to the United Kingdom, upon receiving citizenship would I still have to swear an oath of allegiance to The Queen, even though I'm a born and raised Canadian Citizen. Thusly already making me a subject ?
2) I know the queen is briefed weekly by the Prime Minster of England. Is the Queen briefed on the affairs of Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Etc.
3) if the Queen were ever to abdicate her throne. would that automatically give up all of her Commonwealth Titles?
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- The Dark SideLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
1. Haha this is a kind of trick one. With the changes of citizenship laws over the years you are Canadian and not British. Before 1947 you would have been a British subject but Canada brought in its own citizenship law in that year so then Canadians were both: and I thank capitalgentleman (who is Canadian) for saying that that dual status ended in 1979.
But of course you are one of her subjects in the dictionary meaning of the word.
If you become British, you have to do the same as everyone else at the citizenship ceremony and swear or affirm allegiance to Her Majesty. There's a legal technicality here - the Queen of the UK is not the Queen of Canada. The Constitution Act 1982 in Canada is quite clear about this - it doesn't mention the British monarch, only the Canadian monarch. Queen Elizabeth II just happens to be both. In theory Canada could, with the same constitution, have a different monarch. At the moment you are one of her subjects but only in her capacity of Queen of Canada, not in her capacity as Queen of the UK. If you understand that you might make a good lawyer!
2. Indeed she has a weekly meeting with the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (England doesn't have a separate one) and it's not just a briefing - she gives her views and advice too. The UK doesn't actually have a written constitution but there have been a few respected writers on what it ought to be - and one of them, Bagehot, said in his book on the subject that the monarch has "the right to be consulted, to encourage, and to warn" and in those meetings I'm sure she does all of that. I know she keeps in touch with what is going on in her other realms and she's very interested - but in no way would she ever interfere.
I know she was certainly kept in touch on the one occasion when she might actually have been called upon to do something in one of her realms outside the UK. In 1975, Gough Whitlam's Labor government in Australia couldn't get its budget through Parliament as the Senate was opposed. The country was rapidly entering financial crisis as taxes could soon not be able to be raised and so public employees wouldn't be paid. The Governor-General, Sir John Kerr, took legal advice as to how he could do something about it and, armed with legal opinion, sacked Whitlam, appointed Malcolm Fraser in his place, and Fraser, on Kerr's advice, asked Kerr for an immediate election to break the deadlock. Fortunately that solution worked. The Queen was kept informed at every stage as, of course, Kerr was her representative in Australia and did what he did in her name. I remember it being on the British TV news night after night even though I was only 10 at the time because of the possibility that the Queen might have to wade into the crisis herself.
3. Look back at 1. - the Queen is Queen separately of 16 different countries. She has to abdicate in all 16 to "give up the job" completely. When Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, it required an Act of Parliament in the UK (as the line of succession is a matter of English common law and only Parliament can change the law) AND the Canadian, Australian and New Zealand Parliaments all had to agree. If the Queen did it now, 15 other countries as well as the UK would all have to give agreement in accordance with their own constitutions. So it's not that simple for a British monarch to abdicate as giving up all their other titles isn't automatic.
- SLv 41 decade ago
1) If I move to the United Kingdom, upon receiving citizenship would I still have to swear an oath of allegiance to The Queen, even though I'm a born and raised Canadian Citizen. Thusly already making me a subject ?
- Yes you would. The Canadian and UK Monarchies are legally seperate, even though held by the same person.
2) I know the queen is briefed weekly by the Prime Minster of England. Is the Queen briefed on the affairs of Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Etc.
-The Prime Minster of England is Westminster Abbey. The Queen holds audience weekly with the Prime Minister of the UK. In Canada I expect (but do not know for certain) that the Governor General of Canada holds audience weekly with the Canadian Prime Miniser.
3) if the Queen were ever to abdicate her throne. would that automatically give up all of her Commonwealth Titles?
-No. Separate monarchies. Look at the Statute of Westminster on Wikipedia.
- capitalgentlemanLv 71 decade ago
1. As of I believe 1979, Canadians are no longer British Subjects. That is when the law changed in Canada. The UK may have different rules, but remember, even though we have the same person as Queen, the two Crowns are totally separate and different. You may well have to make a new oath. It's fine; I've made at least 3 in my lifetime so far.
2. Yes - she is a very politically astute lady. I am not sure on just exactly how she is briefed, but she certainly is.
3. Interesting question: it is highly unlikely that she would ever do that; she is very tradition minded (and in the UK, tradition has the force of law), and it is unlikely in the extreme that she would ever step down. However, the question of whether she could give up some of the Crowns she holds, and keep others is interesting. I think you'd need an expert on Constitutional Law to answer that one!
- ?Lv 45 years ago
Elizabeth II is Queen of Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, St Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon's Islands, Tuvalu and the united kingdom. The Queens roles in each and each of those worldwide places style looking on their individual constitutions. indoors the united kingdom the Queens powers are extensive via the Royal prerogatives even besides the certainty that extremely the Queen basically workouts those in accordance with the desires of the government of the day yet keeps the powers for emergency circumstances. The Queen is likewise head of the Commonwealth this is a unfastened collections of international places and is not from now on a binding political unit her place there is noticeably much and heavily ceremonial.
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- wingsLv 51 decade ago
Canada is a member of the British Commonwealth, and as such you ARE a British subject contrary to what one writer says.
I work for a vast Police Service & recently renewed my oath. In that oath was an allegiance to Her Majesty, the Queen.
You can be assured that Her Majesty is indeed briefed by the PM of England. The information doesn't stop there. She's very well aware of the goings on in Canada, NZ & Australia again, they are members of the Commonwealth.
I can't see Queen Elizabeth II abdicating. She took that job for life..and for life she will have it. She's very traditional in that way, & the only time she will leave the throne is upon her death.
- ?Lv 61 decade ago
1) Not sure..
2) The Queen is briefed weekly by the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. The Queen is represented by Governor-Generals who probably have the weekly meetings with the PM in each of the other Commonwealth Realms. She probably does have information sent to her but at less regular intervals.
3)No.
- MichaelLv 61 decade ago
Answer to 2
The Gov General, Queen's Rep in commonwealth nations, most likely gives her a phone call.
Answer to 3
In Edward's case, the Parliaments of each Commonwealth had to approve the abdication. All of them did except the Irish Free State which used the incident to accelerate their independence from the crown and commonwealth.