Christians, can you post two arguments for your god's existence, one with a logical fallacy and one without?

They will present 2 logical fallacies because 1, they don't think what the question is asking, and 2, they won't know what logical fallacy means.

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You're always asking for a logical explanation. People will tell you it's faith, people feel it in their hearts, people look towards the Bible for answers and life experiences point people of faith towards their truth. I can't give you a 'logical' explanation, I don't have enough worldly evidence to support a creator, for me personally though, it's what I believe. At least I'm honest in saying this, it would great to have some tolerance of my beliefs especially when I'm not a politician, I don't make laws, I'm just a regular person who tries to do their best in this life.

God's existence is quite clearly logical, self-evident and rational.

There is no need for any flimsy arguments or those with a logical fallacy.

Logic, reason and natural law prove conclusively that God exists.

One example of the wealth of compelling evidence is:

The Law of Cause and Effect - on its own this is irrefutable, scientific proof of the existence of God.

The Law of Cause and Effect states that everything that happens has to have a cause or combination of causes.

So everything that happens is an effect of a cause or causes, and every cause is itself an effect of a previous cause/s.

This Law of Cause and Effect applies to the whole universe without exception. If there were any exceptions, science would not be possible, because scientific research depends on the fact that we can find a cause or causes for every occurrence. So every effect in nature has to have had a cause. Anyone who denies this is effectively saying that science cannot be trusted.

Of course if we go back far enough in time there must have been a very first cause. Obviously, as a very first cause, it could not have had a cause itself or it would not be the very first cause. But as we have already learned it is scientifically impossible for any natural event not to have had a cause. So how could the very first cause have defied the Law of Cause and Effect by having no cause? There is only ONE possible answer, and that is: ....... that the very first cause could not have been subject to natural law.

In other words, as all natural events are subject to natural law without exception, the very first cause could not have been a natural event, - - - -

it had to be SUPERNATURAL, there is absolutely no other option.

That is the only way the First Cause could evade the law of cause and effect which governs ALL matter and EVERY natural occurrence.

Therefore for atheists to deny a Supernatural First Cause (God) is an affront to science because it calls into question the universal validity of the Law of Cause and Effect which science depends on for all its answers.

Good luck finding a Christian on here who understands the meaning of the word "logical."

Here let me help the cult zombies out ... God is perfect, god is all powerful, god is everywhere, god loves us so much, god is even better than peanut butter and jelly, god is wonderful, god created everything, god knows everything, god has a magnificent male part, god can do anything, god will make sure atheists and rich people burn in hell, god, god, god, god, goddddddddddddddd.

Crap the broken record is skipping ... hold on a sec.

god is timeless, god is beyond our comprehension, god is ( ok that's enough ) I can only stand so much insane nonsense at one time.

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I find it hysterical that the only answers they can come up with is "because the bible said it's real" and because "things exist". if your going to base your knowledge off those reasons, then you have a lot of learning / thinking to do.

if they can give you 3,000 or so with logical failing would you be willing to overlook the second half of your request? If not then yeah they can't win this one.

Anything can be converted into its opposite syllogism by just denying the conclusion.

Oh, that you logic freaks had even one course in the subject.

Sure, that is simple.

But discovering God doesn't come through the sciences, the sciences only ultimately demonstrate LUCK and CHANGE cannot be the origins of complex life and man.

God is a Spirit; He is only "discovered" through a Spiritual experience.

Study John 3 and 4...the new birth.