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? asked in Cars & TransportationBoats & Boating · 1 decade ago

what type of radio system would be used by maritime personnel if satellites, internet, etc was down?

would CB or HAM radio be the best ways to go? those work between each other no matter what kind of systems are down? so, how could two boats communicate without internet, satellites, and communication with the dock or port?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    We use SSB (Ham) radios now. Neither offshore recreational or commercial maritime traffic would be effected if the satellites or Internet went down. That would effect GPS and navigational systems, but it would have absolutely NO effect on communications via radio.

    CB radios much like marine VHF radios have very limited distance (right conditions, maybe 16 miles on a commercial vessel, and maybe only 3 miles or so, on a recreational vessel). These radios work on line of sight or "ground waves".

    SSB however is a different story. When you listen to a local AM broadcast station, you are receiving the ground wave signal. The ground wave travels directly along and near the ground for often a hundred miles or so from the transmitter location.

    At sea, a good SSB can be 16 times more powerful then an AM broadcast station. Sky waves travel toward the sky, rather than hang out along the ground. You would not be able to hear the sky-wave signals, except for the ionosphere. The ionosphere is many miles above the earth, Here, the ionosphere is bombarded by radio sky waves, x-rays, ultraviolet rays, and other forms of high-frequency waves.

    When a sky-wave signal reaches the ionosphere, it will refract the signal, bending it back to earth. The signal can then be heard where the signal reaches the earth, but depending on a number of variables, there might be an area where no signal from that particular transmitter is heard. This area is the skip zone, but after the sky-wave signal bounces on the earth, it will return toward the sky again, and therefore the signal goes skipping around the world.

    Now, lets add a bit of updated technology and newer SSB radio. Suppose you have a typical NEW 5-kW SSB broadcast transmitter. You will only be able to impress 2.5 kW of audio power on that signal. This means that each of the two sidebands will have only 1.25 kW of power. But in the newer highly effective communications using SSB, a single sideband signal removes the carrier and one sideband and concentrates all of its energy in one sideband. Thus, a 1-kW SSB signal will "talk" as far as a 4-kW conventional AM or FM transmitter. It is one reason why long distances can be covered effectively with SSB. These newer SSB radios have the efficiency of an SSB signal that is 16 times greater than with a conventional-commercial AM radio broadcast signal.

    Furthermore, there are ship to shore and relay SSB & Ham stations all around the world. Never in all my experience at sea, have I ever not been able to listen and communicate with many different SSB or Ham stations or other vessels. There are many SSB "radio nets" that keep track of sailors in all parts of the world, and offer "phone & message forwarding" to family, friends & relatives.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Thanks for asking this question.

    Your answer from Capt John is the best explanation of how the SSB/Ham works that I have ever come across. While I have used the VHF and the SSB for all these years, I never really understood why the SSB could transmit and receive conversations all around the world, and the VHF only a few miles.

    One footnote however... If the "Internet" ever does go down, I sure hope I am on my boat in the middle of some ocean somewhere. I can just imagine how that would really PO an awful lot of people.

  • 1 decade ago

    I agree with Capt John with one exception. Digital modes and morse code (CW) are much more efficient that SSB any day. If you are in an emergency situation then power is most likely down and you are probably on batteries. I routinely use digital (psk31) and CW to communicate across country with less than 4 watts.

  • 1 decade ago

    I was an Electronics Tech in the U.S. Navy-Kudos to Capt. John I can't give a better explanation than he did.

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