If you believe in the "science" of the bible,?

Argh!

The Stupid in these answers!

It BURNS!

Bible-thumpers should do themselves a favor

and stay well away from Science..

Science of religion is an oxymoron. If it is testable, then it is not religion. If you have to take it on faith, then it is. Most people would take a story like you mention as a parable. Meaning, it is not expected to be literal truth. Those who would take it as literal truth, would interpret it as a miracle. Meaning it is not expected to be reproducible. Either way there is no good way to test it.

There are some stories though were people do take them literally, and believe that there is a scientific explanation. For example, I have heard plausible explanation for Manna from Heaven, the parting of the Red Sea, and the great flood. In which case the miracle would not be that these events happened, but that they happened when they did.

For example, going back to the case you referenced. Lets say I assume it is literal truth, but I look for a scientific explanation for the miracle. In that case, what I would come-up with, is first off I would need to determine is it possible for sheep to have streaked or speckled or spotted offspring. I've seen such sheep, so I would have to say yes. In that case the miracle, would not be the stripped offspring, but that they occurred after doing something that seems completely unrelated to genetics or the development cycle. (It turns out cat spots are not genetically determined. A cloned cat, can have a completely different fur coat. The same may be true for sheep.) That said, since it was supposedly a miracle, I would not expect repeating the experiment would give me the same results, any more than I would expect buying myself a lottery ticket tonight would make me a millionaire. (Although I would expect better odds with the lottery ticket.)

LOL....the scripture in reference:

Genesis 30:37-39

"Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted."

Jacob placed striped branches where the sheep or goats could see them while mating. This resulted in streaked, speckled, or spotted offspring.

Well, your example is relatively minor. Here is a much more significant example.

According to Ecclesiastes 1:5 the sun actually goes around the earth--as, of course, it must, since, according to Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, and 1 Chr 16:30, the earth does not move. And the earth cannot move because, according to 1 Samuel 2:8 and Ps 75:3, it is placed on pillars. And because it is placed on pillars, it has an underside and an upper side, as confirmed by Isaiah 40:22 which indicates that the earth is a flat disk.

(The Hebrew word translated as "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is chuwg, which means "circle" not "sphere." Strong's Concordance: "circle"..."describe a circle." Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament: "Circle...the earth conceived as a disc, Is 40:22." Hebrew-Aramaic and English Lexicon of the Old Testament: "draw round, make a circle." If a sphere were meant, the Hebrew word duwr would have been used.)

Since the biblical earth is flat, it has an underside and under the earth is the abyss, which is referred to several times in the Bible. That is also what is being referred to in Job 26:7 when it says that the earth hangs over nothing. (The original Hebrew word translated as "upon" in that passage in the KJV also means "over.") The actual sphere of the earth in space is not "suspended' or "hanging" "over" or "upon" nothing. It is orbiting the sun at 66,700 miles per hour.

There are several other verses in the Bible indicating the earth is flat, such as Nebuchadnezzar's vision in Dan 4:10-11 (if it were not flat the tree could not be seen from all the earth), and Dan 2:28 states that the visions of Nebuchadnezzar are from God. If the biblical god says the biblical earth is flat, it must be flat.

The original Hebrew word translated as firmament is raqiya, which is a noun derived from the Hebrew word raqa. That word is a verb meaning "to beat out," and is used in the bible in reference to beating out metal into plates or expanses of the metal (as in Exodus 39:3). So raqiya, as a noun, would literally mean "that which is beaten out."

The idea is that the firmament, or sky, is a solid, beaten out expanse or vault set on the rim of the flat disk of the earth. This understanding is confirmed in Job 37:18, which states:

"Can you beat out the vault of the skies as he does,

hard as a mirror of cast metal?" (New English Bible. .)

That idea is also implied in verses such as Deut 4:32:

"Ask now about the former days, long before your time, from the day God created man on the earth; ask from one end of the heavens to the other. Has anything so great as this ever happened, or has anything like it ever been heard of?"

The "ends of heaven" would be the base of the vault of heaven where it rests on the rim of the disk of the earth.

See also Ps 19:1-6, Isaiah 13:4-5, and Matt 24:31. There, the Hebrew word translated as "beat out" (or "spread out" in other versions) is, as noted above, raqa.

Also, the stars in the biblical cosmos are just lights set in the firmament. As mere lights in the sky, they will fall to the earth in the Last Days (Matt 24:29), something that is ridiculous considering the actual stars are other suns and many times larger than the earth.

So, according to the Bible the earth is a flat, immovable disk, supported by pillars and covered with a solid vault of heaven, the rim of which is is resting on the perimeter of the disk of the earth, and the stars are just lights set in the vault of heaven.

For a graphic of the biblical cosmos, see the illustration here (click on the page 190 link).

http://books.google.com/books?id=5_UcbVxqCjYC&prin...

That this is the correct view of the biblical cosmos is shown by the fact that it describes a structure with parts that are fully consistent with each other. That structural consistency indicates that it accurately represents the cosmos as conceived by the ancient Hebrews and as its writers incorporated that view in the Bible.

Moreover, according to the Bible, earth is the centerpiece of creation, and in the Last Days the biblical god will destroy the earth and the heavens as part of his plan for mankind.

That is ridiculous considering that the difference between the size of the earth and the size of the universe is even greater than the difference between the size of a hydrogen atom and the size of the earth.

It is therefore the height of geocentric idiocy to think that the whole universe was created merely for the sake of the earth and its inhabitants. All of which goes to show that the Bible cannot be considered the word of God.

You scoff it without knowing any facts or possibilities. Just maybe the stripped bark in the water gave off a scent that attracted certain rams to the water. Every creature has its preferences. Have to know what breed of sheep he had how many different ones and if one breed was attracted to certain scents. How about unicorns google Lancelot the unicorn. They were not dumbies even back then.

Please give me the reference for that.

The Bible is not a science book. Some stories only happened once, like putting out a fleece. God sometimes does miracles, much more in the Old Testament since they didn't have Jesus. Just because something doesn't happen now, doesn't mean it never happened. We could be as wicked as they were in Noah's day, but God promised not to flood the World again. Why do you want to test God? All true science agrees with the Bible, and all of the science in the bible is true.

It works, but only the saved can see the stripes.

"How come fossils have been found all over the Earth with man's and dinosaur's fossilized in the same places from the same time?"

That's BS!! Scientific source, please! And not some idiotic creationist web site or book.

Face-palm. Sigh.

Does a newspaper article describing what someone did claim that what that person did brought about the result they imagined that it produced? You need to work on your reading comprehension. The Bible doesn't say that genetics works in such a manner.

Awaiting your retraction after you re-read it.

I'm waiting..................

How come fossils have been found all over the Earth with man's and dinosaur's fossilized in the same places from the same time?