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Problem with my gun shop...?

I have a problem with my gun shop and I don't know how to proceed...

Here's the situation- I bought a gun from a dealer out of state and I went to my own local gun shop a week ago to have them do the FFL transfer. They faxed the forms to the out of state dealer, I sent the payment out, the out of state dealer confirmed it was on its way to my gun shop, and my gun shop told me to come back in a week or so to fill out the forms and pay a $50 transfer fee. So far so good.

I just went to my gun shop today to check to see if it had arrived yet. I found out that this shop literally closed its doors and went out of business today! I knocked on their doors, I tried to phone them, I even knocked on their back, "employees only" door. I even looked through the front window and I can see them sitting around behind the counter and they definitely saw me. They are literally hiding from anyone who calls or shows up.

Right now, my gun (a world war II Japanese Nambu, which I already paid $700 for) is sitting in a package in their shop and I can't get it nor can I even contact these characters to even know what's to become of it. I have a sick feeling that when they declare their assets in bankruptcy court they're not going to declare it as a $50 asset they need to collect from me, but rather a $700 asset they're going to collect from the bankruptcy sale leaving me holding the bag. They did NOT pay a single penny for this gun; I paid the sale price and the shipping.

So the question is, what can I do to get my gun out of this entanglement? I'm going to call another gun shop in the hopes there is some "gun shop network" and they can find a way to contact them when I can't, but what is the law on this? I paid for it so all I needed to do is to fill out the FFL transfer, but is the gun legally their property because it was transferred to them and they folded before it was transferred to me, or is it my property because I paid for it and there's some FFL requirement to turn it over to me?

Any advice will be appreciated. World War II Japanese guns don't exactly grow on trees and I don't want to eat $700 dollars. HELP!

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  • 1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    i would bet they are not trying to steal the gun #1 so don't worry about it as much as you have. #2 contact the seller and explain the situation - they will have the FFL transfer agents contact info beyond what you have i can only assume - if he is a good seller. #3 and maybe should be #1 - go to the police and tell them the situation and that you are worried a gun in your name will end up in someones hands it is not intended to.

    Source(s): personal experience with FFL transfers
  • SM
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Dave, this is real easy to fix, get the copies of the paperwork you have, bill of sale, payment transfer, and the local shop transfer form. Next thing is call the local police department, they may or may not get involved, this is a complaint for theft of property. If they don't get involved or don't get the shop to open for them the next step WILL get their attention. Call the ATF, let them know what happened; here's the good part. Since the rifle is crossing state lines on a transfer it falls under the ATF rules. It will take a couple of days for them to get the owners contacted, but rest assured they will not ignore the folks at the ATF. Having a shop and a FFL license that you violate is not something to be taken lightly.

    If you want to try something rather quickly write out a letter, explain that you have already paid for the item and services, if they don't contact you in 24 hours you will be contacting the feds. Sometimes just that will be enough to get peoples attention.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    LOL! This is great. The gun shop GUY is pretty prevalent. I have to say not all of them are like that. But a lot seem to be. I think being around GUNS some people think they are somehow more cool than they really are. Kind of like the folks I work with who say things like "I am just begging for someone to break in at night....Got my 45." I roll my eyes. I would rather not find out how good I am in a life or death struggle. There is a shop that I used to browse at (notice I said used to) and I was looking along with another guy when gun shop guy, said "Hey Ron, I guess today is browse but not buy anything." I walked out and never went back. There was another shop where I simply asked the man (turns out he is the owner) if he could order blackpowder guns and supplies (he was closer than Cabela's) to which he bit my head off "We dont sell those junky things here." Uhhh ok. Nice customer service sklls. The thing he did not realize is I collect a lot of styles of firearms. Including the ones he sells. I never set foot in there again either. Luckily there are one or two local shops that are great.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I bought a Colt Official Police .38. Paid in full. Was waiting for the ten day waiting period to go by.

    The guy went out of business. Lost his FFL for making a paperwork mistake at a gun show next state over in Arizona.

    I never got my gun, or the money back. The Duarte Police couldn't have cared less.

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  • 1 decade ago

    If they are going out of business they are going to have to dispose of their bound firearms log book by sending it and all of the federal purchase forms to the regional BATFE office.

    If you have a receipt from the other gun shop from whom you purchased the firearm, then you have the legal right to that firearm pending the completion of the paperwork at your end. Try slipping a note under the door telling them that you just want to pick up 'your' firearm that was transferred to them for you. I can't imagine why they would have a problem completing this for you as it doesn't appear that they owe you any money for an order unfulfilled. If they continue to be unresponsive, slip them another note telling them that you're going to contact BATFE about the problem. Trust me, as a former gun shop owner I can tell you that no firearms dealer wants BATFE showing up at their door.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    If you go to the police they will tell you to get a lawyer.

    Good luck.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    it is called felony theft,,got all your papers call the local sheriff office,,they will get in

  • 1 decade ago

    * Get yourself a Lawyer.*

    Source(s): * Run like a Deer.*.....................Fly like an Eagle.*~~
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