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CrazyHorseLady asked in PetsHorses · 1 decade ago

Help putting weight back on a picky eater?

Long story short my daughters horse is pretty sick right now but slowly (hopefully) getting better. Now since he has been sick for quite a while now he lost quite a bit of weight We have thankfully got him to start eating and he is holding steady at his weight. I am not worried about getting it back on him right away as he is still sick but I would like to have a game plan for when he is finally over this crap.

Now when i say that this horse is a picky eater i am not exaggerating at all. I have had horses that I have rescued that where easy as pie to put weight on, but then again they would eat anything that you threw at them... not this guy

He will not eat...alfalfa anything (hay, pellets, cubes).....beet pulp....senior feed

I am going to try adding race bran slowly to his feed and we are slowly moving him over to 1/2 oats and 1/2 Neturina Life Design Complete. And when i mean slowly moving him over i literally take 1 handful of oats out and put 1 handful of the other feed in. We got him eating and I'm not turning him off of what he is getting. Right now he is getting his feed coated in Molasses (it was the only way that he would eat at all)

He gets free choice hay, I drop about 1/2 bale in his stall a day and right now he is leaving some behind in the morning when i add more. He is also getting as much feed as he wants to eat. I put in 9 quarts of oats every morning and evening and he is eating almost all of them, vet told me if his bucket is empty when i get there fill it up again till he starts leaving some behind.

He is allowed out of his "room" for short periods only (about 1 hour while i lock up the other horses and let them eat) So he get to graze a bit, although he prefers to go to the water trough and play in it (he only has water buckets in his "room" and he loves to stick almost his whole head in the water and splash)

Any other tips that we can try once he is feeling like himself again would be great.

Update:

His teeth are fine .... he is only 3. He gets his teeth checked every year due to him having a very slight parrot mouth.

Oh yea I tired the applesauce trick and he refused to eat his feed with that mixed in.. so we stuck with the molasses.

Update 2:

He choked on his feed and suffered from Aspiration Pneumonia, while his lungs are starting to sound clearer each day the vet thinks that he has some sort of sinus infection going on as well.

The other day his nose got all snotty and he got another high fever. So today we have taken him off all his antibiotics and tomorrow he is going to have some tests run to see just what it is that is going on.

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  • gallop
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago
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    As I recall there was a lump on his neck that was assumed to be an abscess, but which just disappeared spontaneously. If indeed it was an abscess and not some other swelling or enlargement, where did it go? Abscesses can fistulate, and form tracts between body organs and cavities. If an abscess fistulates and drains into a body space or organ, the infection can diffusely spread in that organ or space.

    It doesn't sound as though there was any further investigation into verifying what that lump actually was. I remember wondering if there might have been a condition affecting the throat or esophagus that was the actual cause of the initial choke episode when the lump developed. Often the initial symptom seen in conditions affecting the walls of the esophagus is difficulty swallowing, which could be what led to his choke and could also be prompting his current refusals to eat. Depending on the cause, he may also be experiencing pain when he swallows. When a horse won't eat, it is always for good reason, and should be investigated.

    I hope that the tests being done will include scoping the nasal cavity, throat, and esophagus and maybe obtaining aspirate from the lungs for evaluation, along with blood screens.

    If at all possible, I'd try to get him to an equine hospital/clinic for diagnostics and treatment options that would optimize his chances for full recovery. It is hard to come up with an appropriate diet plan without knowing the full nature and extent of medical issues.

    Add.....................There are some things to consider regarding his current feed. An average racehorse in training is fed about 10 to 12 pounds of oats per day. A quart of oats weighs approximately one pound, so he is being fed 9 lbs of oats at each feeding, for 18 lbs a day. No more than a maximum of 5 lbs of oats per feeding for a 1300 lb horse is advised. That amount is not what is recommended. It's just the maximum that should be fed. Feeding more than that amount at a given feeding can result in starches left undigested in the foregut being passed to the hindgut and producing disruption of microflora, acidosis, and a potential physiologic cascade leading to colic or laminitis.

    Combined with the fact that he is recovering from a recent and serious choke, there are significant risks associated with feeding him buckets of oats free choice. He is currently on a very high sugar diet, between the starches in oats and the added molasses, while he is doing nothing to expend it as energy.

    Feeding much less starch and more fat would be a better way to provide calories to build weight. Corn oil provides about 2000 safe calories per cup fed. Over several weeks time, the amount of corn oil you feed can be increased from about 1/4 cup a day to as much as two cups a day, which would provide 4000 calories. But you have to remember that if he does choke, and oils are present in the esophagus, if he aspirates the oil into the lungs, the chances of recovery are severely impaired. Stabilized and mineral balanced rice bran might be be safer for him. Two pounds a day will provide about 2400 additional safe fat calories. It comes powdered or in pelleted form.

    At any rate, I'd want to cut back on the oats asap to reduce the dietary sugars, and meanwhile be sure no more than 5 lbs is fed per feeding, with at least 4 hours between feedings.

    Source(s): Registered Nurse and 58 years with horses
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    You could try black oil sunflower seeds. I know you don't want to mess with things he actually eats but grains and molasses are pure energy feeds, they do very little for weight gain, but I do understand that you are feeling stuck. And I agree that as long as he's getting something, it's better than nothing.

    I agree with the oils, and also to try the applesauce. it's really too bad about the beet pulp. Rice bran is a good idea too.

    I assume he's been wormed and checked for ulcers, teeth etc. What kind of sickness does he have? It might all turn around once he feels 100%....Good luck!

    EDIT: Wow that's scary, I have a friend who lost a horse last year because of this very thing. Our stupid vet misdiagnosed him and told her he had rabies! He choked on some beet pulp that hadn't been soaked by the time she got him to a real vet, he was colicking,

    Hope all goes well

  • 1 decade ago

    You can try Vegetable oil, it works pretty good and helps there coat and hooves. If you have a local Tractor Supply store i buy the weight builder in there and it seems ot be helping, they have 2 different kind. Oats are really good and corn is good too. Sweet feed mixed in a little at a time would help as well. Nutra- Glow it looks kind of like molasses it is a good weight builder too.

    Source(s): I have had horses hard to get weight on, I have one right now slowly getting his weight on him! I have tried all this stuff and it works!
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    First, make sure that his teeth are in good shape. Molasses is not ideal because it is very high in sugar. Instead, try a sugar free applesauce. It still tastes good. You could also mix about a cup of soybean or corn oil into his feed. This adds a lot of calories to add weight or maintain weight on a hard keeper. Overall, just do your best to get a nutritious, balanced diet into him.

    Source(s): owner/rider
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  • lubin
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

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