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Shane Williams, better than Jonah Lomu?
Okay so Lomu was an good player, but in this era he would have hardly as much of an effect as he did in his day. When he played there were the days of flankers who looked liked wingers! He had no ability to read the game, his defence was EXTREMELY poor for someone of his size, his skill was TERRIBLE, the ONly thing he could do was run.
Now lets look at Shane, IRB player of the year 2008, six nations man of the tournament 2008, third highest try scorer of all time, and the highest try scorer still currently playing rugby. For HIS SIZE he has great defence, he has stopped the likes of Shane Horgan and even Beast. He has an excellent rugby brain and thus reads the game very well. Great acceleration and speed and i don't even need to talk about his skills.
In this modern era of HUGE rugby players even bigger than Lomu who are buffed up on protein shakes etc...... Lomu could not get anywhere close Williams has got to, let's face it Lomu just had size, Williams on the other hand has got sheer brilliance!
12 Answers
- 1 decade ago
Honestly you guys seriously need to wake up. Who is Shane Williams??? everybody knows Jonah Lomu. He was the most detructive force in World Rugby nobody else will ever be as physically dominant as Jonah Lomu. What has Shane Williams done that is so special??.
If Jonah played the bulk of his games in the Northern hemisphere against easier opposition then he would have racked up a mammoth amount of tries.
Lets be realistic here.
Blues - Joe Rocks - Rene Ranger
Chiefs - Sivivatu - Masaga
Crusaders - Guildford - Maitland
Hurricanes - Gear - Savea
Highlanders - Poki - (Shane Williams)
To put him into perspective outside the northern hemisphere he would only make the Highlanders starting side in Super 15. Jonah is a legend of the world Shane Williams is only a legend in the Northern Hemisphere.
- blmLv 71 decade ago
OK -- I can live with the expression that Williams is a more complete player than Lomu. But better -- that is such a loaded term with so many intangibles. Not willing to go there.
Look at it this way -- in the late '90s international squads built their entire game plan on the assumption that their first and most important priority was to that contain Lomu. Brilliant as Williams can be, I don't think you could say the same. So better -- no.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
you northies need to clam down...lol..Lomu had problems with his health, has Willams suffered kidney problems which ballooned his weight an made him so sick he couldn't train, through his whole caree,so had to have a transplant, an then make the grade again for the hurricanes an a AB trail...NO he has not. Lomu at 19 helped destroy Australia at wellington..46-9 on a very cold wet day, he destroyed England in 95, underwood eyeball him an got left standing clutching thin air while Lomu danced all around an over Englands defence, their number 15 has a perm ant imprint on his face after that one..lol.. the S.A geared their whole team to stop him from scoring against them, which was impressive, only it left gaping holes for the rest of the ABs
to razzle dazzle, if your comparing size, then Willams has NOTHING on Christen Cullen, compared to size he had nothing an while small in body, YET no one in the world scored tries like Cully, against Australia again Zinzan caught a huge up an under, an threw a brillant pass that Cully caught at speed, after out stepping everyone in front of him , he met Geagan at the last man down, sidesteped off both feet an scored an amazing trie with a player tackling him over the line, against SA, speed wingers out wide Cully got a pass an headed for the line on an angle, 2 of the fastest wingers in rugby playing for S.A couldnt catch him, an he scored another brillant solo trie, .to help you watch, a decade of the all blacks...1996-2005, NZ verses Australia six of the best, in this context you posted a challenge I doubt Willams in this era wouldnt have been given a mention let alone been a blip on the radar..thing is if Lomu or cully played for your team, you would be claming them as the two messiahs...sorry my friend get real, one thing I love about the Oz an S.A teams an supporters they respected an feared these players, you guys need to open the other eye, 6 nations is not the world of rugby, an more ABs have been voted best player of the year than any other nation...Rithie mcCaw holds that honour as well as Dan carter..sucks to be factual here dont it....or are you talking about Bryan willams or Sonny bill WILLAMs...LMAO
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I think Shane Williams is a great player and a joy to watch, but the question, who would you rather have on your team seals it for me. It would be Lomu, and seriously, no disrespect to Williams, but if he was a kiwi I wonder if he'd even crack the the test team as there are, and have been, so many good outside backs running round in kiwiland. So for me I'd take Lomu and would like to ad that blm's points are very astute.
- Bill PLv 71 decade ago
Having seen both play all I can say is that Williams is a great winger. All you have to say about Lomu is "Jonah" and everyone knows who your talking about. As has been said, SA built their whole defence to contain Jonah. Lomu did a marvellous Maori two step on Underwood (I think). In his day Underwood was as good as Williams.
- 1 decade ago
Yeah i agree with you. You probably favour Williams more but it does'nt matter, you're entitled to your opinion. But yes, Lomu, all he really did was run over people; usually when it was one on one, exept for when he ran through 8 French-men (defense fail).
On the other hand you have Williams with great speed, acceleration side-step and more. Like you mentioned he also has good rugby brain.
So I think Shane William is better. Just think of who you'd rather be on your team.
Source(s): Watch Rugby - 1 decade ago
Shane is a great player for Wales, but hes not even 1 of the top 5 wingers in the world. Theres gear, jane, maitland - amazing, sivivatu, ranger, ashton, mitchell, o'connor an many more. He has the skills an speed but i doubt if he was a Kiwi he'd even get a shot for the AllBlacks just because hes too small.
Source(s): Jonah Lomu - 6'5, 120kg, 10.8s + Legendary strength = Williams nightmare - 1 decade ago
Lots of people are fast and skilled. But what Lomu brought to the game no one else ever will.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
When the Lions toured NZ last Shane Williams played in the second test at Wellington and got pummeled by every man he ran into, lasting memory of him trying to sidestep Ali Williams who absolutely smashed him.
Point being when in space he looks good, up against good opposition with a decent defence he is average.
Lomu on the other hand was unstoppable in space and created his own when there was none. Caught flat footed his defence was average but often put thunderous tackles on players who chose the direct route.
As for the skill level you obviously are to ignorant to notice his deft passing game or his abitity to "in and away" coupled with the best fend in the business. Check the Bledisoe 2000 series you will see it all.
Can't tackle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr47KPlEL0Q&feature...
Check it