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how to deal with an innappropriate comment from a japanese co-worker?
Im going to keep this as brief as possible.
I am a Seishain at a medium sized Japanese company. I am based at one location at the company, but during the week I go to other locations, for meetings, or whatever my company needs.
I was at a different location for my last 2 hours of work this afternoon, which happens to be an elderly care day centre, and I was leaving to go home, and at the same time the customers were leaving to go home, and the staff were helping them.
One female staff member (who I have only had VERY passing contact with until now - only "aisatsu" really) came up to me, rubbed my stomach and told me I looked pregnant. I am not pregnant. Everyone knows I am not pregnant.
I am not "Japanese size" but nor am I obese or overweight. However I do have a child, so granted my stomach isn't as flat as it used to be. But I took this to be offensive, and pretty upsetting. I am not Japanese, but since I have lived in Japan for so long I have kind of got used to not being touched up by virtual strangers, and ... I was a bit flabberghasted.
I was pretty shocked at the time (no tears or anything though), and one of the people who I work with when I visit this centre picked up on it, and he said not to worry, as it was just a joke. But ... I still feel pretty uncomfortable. I think it is wrong to make jokes with people who are practically strangers to you. If It was someone I work with everyday it would be different ... do you think?
How should I deal with this situation? Go to my general line manager and tell her what happened? Find a reason not to go back? Or am I being oversensitive and should I just ignore it? I must admit, it has left me feeling uncomfortable, and reluctant to go back. I can guarantee that she would not have said it to a Japanese person.
Also .. I usually wear a suit to work, but today I Was wearing a slightly floatier dress with a pair of leggings. A little more casual than usual, but nothing inappropriate. And I have lost quite a considerable amount of weight recently. This comment was nothing more than nastiness, and I would appreciate some objective opinions on how to deal with it. Im not going to quit over it, but I just would like some advice. I really love my job, but its my first job with a Japanese (non english speaking) company.
Please be nice ... Im a bit upset.
you guys answers/responses are absolutely awesome. ALL of them.
Thank you so much. xx
15 Answers
- rhubarbLv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
What the female colleague did to you is definitely an unacceptable thing. She obviously lacks basic manners toward her colleague. Even if it happened between close colleagues, it should be very delicate & personal thing to be referred to. At least in Canada, where I currently live, people would take it seriously and even someone beside you say "that's very rude!!"
I'm not sure how old the colleague is, but she seems just immature, ignorant or insensitive. If I were you, I would try to tell her calmly how I felt uncomfortable, or bring it to 'personnel department' (preferably female staff)
But you should not mention 'cultural difference' thing this time.
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People having common sense would not touch your belly and say "you look pregnant"
While some people don't care much, the fact is that you felt uncomfortable and still now. (that's why you posted this) I won't say it is a 'harassment', but these feelings are to be judged only by the person who felt uncomfortable and worry about future. As a woman and as your co-worker, she should learn from this mistake.
- always b naturalLv 71 decade ago
I would just let it go.
And if she says anything to you in the future along these
same lines, just point out to her how rude it is to touch
strangers, or if she says something rude (but no touching)
that what she says is uncalled for. Or you might want to
be just as rude back, and cup her breast and ask if they
are real or if her bra is stuffed. Mind you, that will probably
will get you fired, lol. I am thinking the man you mentioned
probably said something to her, and you won't have this
problem again.
In the future, what you can say, and this applies to every
situation. Just reply, "Why do you ask" That puts to
onus on them to justify themselves, and that really embarasses
most everybody. And when they do come up with an answer,
then you just say "Oh, so that's why you were asking"
Source(s): my expat life - eguruLv 41 decade ago
Hey, the woman who touched your stomach was terrible. She was being mean on purpose. There is no way a stranger would do it in any country. The touch is that informal. Even if she only said it in words, that would've been mean too.
I think you definitely should not leave your job because of that, although I don't know how uncomfortable can it get in the future. You should find a way to confront her and show her that you're not to be messed with. Do something mean to her,lol. I know what it sounds like but that's the way I would do.
It is quite weird because I had a situation that felt exactly the same as yours. When I was studying English in England there were about 4 Japanese girls in my class. 2 were nice, 1 was OK and the 4th one didn't have a good feel about her. I joined the class a bit later (after 2 months or so) so she was OK in the beginning, I had a chat with her about Japan and that I wanted to learn Japanese and stuff and she looked normal and polite. Then she asked me to go to have a drink and I refused as I don't drink. The next day I saw her she was making loud and rude remarks during my conversation with the teacher. I was really shocked (when you're shocked you can't even say anything) and the first thought that came to my mind was "wait, is she bullying me or something"? No one ever bullied me before and it was even more shocking because she was abroad (not in Japan). I wasn't a gaijin. We were in the same shoes. I was thinking that if one girl out of 4 (the only Japanese girls I've ever met in real life) was like this, then what are people like in Japan in general? I think it's a matter worth attention.
- rabbitonturtleLv 41 decade ago
The women is rude no question about it and how you feel about it is quite understandable.
But you are here in Japan where harmony among society and work places is valued very high.
From my own point of view, foreigners are way more assertive in judging things in black and white and act accordingly, while Japanese are much more prudent in voicing his or her opinion and we Japanese have much wider grey zone before we voice our opinion particularly about delicate personal matters.
My advice for you is wait and see how the women's personality would be eventually judged by her colleagues trusting their common sense.
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- 1 decade ago
Japanese people are strange. They think saying "are you metabo?" is different to saying "you are fat".
With me lot of people seem quite happy to point out I've put on 'soft muscle'.
If they say it in english I know it's their way of dealing with the language gap.
Either way; think of the (perceived) insult like a leaf on a stream - watch it float away.
Source(s): I like this song too. It makes me walk 5cms taller. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-6v4H4BtWI - ?Lv 41 decade ago
It cannot be a joke. That female is really nasty. Obviously she is not from a good family and she lacks education.
She has done or said similar things to other people and will do so in the future. You should save future victims by telling your general line manager exactly how that particular female hurt you. It is your duty to your company and the society as a whole to do so.
- donvitoLv 41 decade ago
is this lady an older woman? if so, she is just OBATARIAN( this is an old expression to call this kind of people) i don't think she did it to hurt your feeling. it's just her way to break a tension to be friend with you. its just she did it in a wrong manner. I've know many ladies like this, to me she was just trying to be friendly and to make you smile. i know in your culture this is not acceptable, but this kind of jokes happen a lot in Japan between ladies like them. it's just different culture and humor.
I don't recomend for you to go to your manager. maybe it might be a good idea to tell her directly next time this happens, but casually with friendly manner. not to be harsh about it, because then you might have problems afterwards. (she might start talking about you behind your back etc.)
if you dont want to confront her then it might be ok to tell her friends how you feel, and ask them to tell her, but don't be talking bad about her with them, just tell them how you feel and you want her to stop.
good luck!
Source(s): native japanese - 1 decade ago
Well personaly I would just try to forget about the whole thing but if u feel u have to try to talk to the lady and just tell her nicely not to do that again. Sayo nara ko un
- 1 decade ago
It sounds like an Osaka no obachan joke to me. Is the woman from Osaka? If so, I guess she is just an over-friendly obachan in Osaka. you shouldn't care about it.
Source(s): Japanese - 少林 YodaLv 51 decade ago
So the lady in question said something offensive to you. Maybe even tried to be deliberately hurtful. Japanese people sometimes have a habit of turning their "tatemae" off around foreign people.
Guess where else Japanese people turn the tatemae off---around the elderly or young children. The gaikokujin is placed in this category of "harmless people." So its not surprising that a counselor for old people is the one making off color jokes.
And they are very keen to laugh at "harmless people." I think its because of mansai, Japanese comedy, where one person is the "baka" and the other is the "tsukkomi." Old people, little kids, foreigners, animals-----we are the "baka" role unwillingly, even, and the Japanese is the tsukkomi, whose job it is to point out how silly the baka person is with teasing or cutting remarks.
Basically, remember that the comment says waay more about her: her fears and insecurities. If it gets to you, she will do it again. You know this type of person. So turn it around on her, ignore her....just rise above it.