What do you think of my horse's conformation?

Cinder :

1. What do you think of my horse's confirmation?

Looks like he has well balanced hips and shoulders. Would be able to tell even better if he wasn't always resting his hind leg.

2. Do you think his weight is okay?

Looks like he needs to put a little more weight on. He isn't that bad in shape though.

3. Do you think they look anything similar to the breed stated of their papers?

He doesn't look like a Paint horse. He more looks like a Thoroughbred to me.

4. Do you think I'm correct or did I measure wrong?

Well buy a measuring tape and place it on the ground to his withers. Read how many inches he stands, then get a calculator and divide it by four. Then that's his height! They look around 14-15 hands, but just to be sure, get a measuring tape!

5. Is their a name for the black unique coloring? She's registered under the color black, but she has brown spots?

Well she should actually be registered under the color very dark black.

Swift :

1. What do you think my horse's confirmation?

Nice long neck. Looks like he has well balanced hips and shoulders. Love the color!

2. Do you think his weight is okay?

He looks better than Cinder. He could put on a tiny bit of weight on, but he looks fine to me.

3. Do you think think he looks anything similar to the breed stated on his papers?

I think he looks more like a Quarter Horse or an Appendix. Not a Paint horse.

4. Do you think I'm correct or did I measure him wrong?

I think he looks around 14-15 hands high. But like I said above, get a measuring tape! ;)

5. Answered above for Cinder.

First of all......... Swift is Chestnut and Cinder is brown. That's what their colors are called.

1. Cinder- She has downhill balance, her neck is set on a little low, her front leg looks over at the knee, and she's ewe necked (but that's probably just because she's underweight and underworked). Her back end would be nice if she was more muscular.

Swift- There aren't any good conformation pictures of her, but she looks better muscled.

2. Cinder looks underweight.

3. Swift looks like she could be an Appendix QH, but Cinder looks more like a Thoroughbred than a Paint (which doesn't mean much, because Paints can look like either QH's or TB's).

4. Looks like she's probably about 15hh or an inch or 2 shorter.

5. She's brown (she's not bay because her cannons aren't completely black). She was probably registered as a foal before the brown showed up.

Cinder

1. Wow um. She's cute... but her conformation leaves a lot to be desired. Her head is too big, her neck is too thin. This might be because she looks a bit underweight. I cant tell unless I see a picture of her filled out. Her neck is slightly ewe. Her legs look ok. Nothing grand but nothing terrible. Overall there are obvious faults but not everything is faulty

2. She looks underweight to me. Her topline is non-existent. Like I said above, i'd like to see her with more substance on her neck.

3. She could be. The thing with paints is that they can come in all different types. I've owned a lot of paint sporthorses while there are tons of fancy hunters and stock horses. She doesn't fit ideal but theres no ruling anything out.

4. You seem pretty accurate there

5. I dont see anything unique about her coloring. I'd actually refer to her as a dark bay instead of a black

Swift

1. Better head and neck than Cinder, however very downhill. Her front feet slope up kind of steep which can be unreliable in the future. Ewe neck

2. She looks underweight. Again, theres like no fat around the back and topline. I like the amount of bulk on her neck though.

3. No. I've owned appendix horses and this horse doesn't fit the breed standard to me. She looks kind of like she's got a lot of the fine boned bits of the thoroughbred but with the quarter horses huge rear end instead of getting the best of both worlds.

They're cute. They may have to mature a bit more. I know appendixes often take a little longer than paints to mature so you may see something nice out of Swift. But for now, its nothing that stands out or impressive. Again... they need some more weight. Specially the paint. They're supposed to be nice and round and fit.

Cinder has okay confo. Her shoulder has good slope, giving her more forward reach and a smoother ride. She has a good deep hip. I love the angles on her pasterns. The bad news is, she's short-backed (and so may interfere, in other words hit her front feet with her back ones). She also has a ewe-neck (weak on top and more developed on the bottom). She's also tied in at the knee in front. Finally, it may be just the way she's standing in that picture, but she could be camped out behind.

Overall, I would expect Cinder to be a quick-moving mare, but one that may develop joint issues, arthritis and minor injuries because of her conformation problems. Her neck can be improved with the right exercise. Her weight is okay-- I'd like to see her fill out a little more in her topline and ribs.

Sorry, got to go for now, hopefully I can do Swift later!

Those aren't proper conformation shots to judge from. The horses are not standing square and the camera angles aren't straight. From what I can see I'm not impressed though.

They look a little on the thin side but not skinny. I can see a faint outline of ribs under what looks like heavy coats. I can see the points of the hips. The necks look thin. They have muscle but are lacking extra thin layer of fat that makes a horse look fleshed out and healthy. They would probably look thinner if they had healthy coats. Overall they look slightly malnourished or wormy but not alarmingly so. I've definitely seen horses in worse condition.

You don't say what breed is stated on their papers.

Get a stick or a measuring tape to accurately measure them.

The black horse does not have unique coloring. It's fun to pretend a commonly colored horse does and look really really hard for signs they have some special color gene but 99.99% of the time they don't. Your black mare (whom already is sporting a shabby coat) is either sun-bleached and faded or she just isn't a true black. She might be a seal brown which is a really dark brown that almost looks black. Seal brown is just as common as black, chestnut and bay. So are faded black horses.

Have your vet do a fecal to determine parasite loads on both horses (before worming them, not after). Re-evaluate their diet. Get them in a pasture with good grass if you can. If not get them some better quality hay and grain that what they have been receiving. They will fill out and their coats will look a lot better. Then clean them up, square them up and take conformation pictures from straight on. Post them and actually tell us what breed they are. Then you'll get better answers.

As of now they look like they are getting by, not thriving.

Due to the bad conformation shots, It's hard to judge them for sure, but you can see obvious flaws. Both horses have high hips, and cinder looks like she has a bit of a ewe neck. Both horses lack muscle and are unkempt.

The vet is the vet. If you can't trust him, find another. I can see a bit of rib, but it may all just be due to lack of muscle.

They both look fairly plain. Swift looks like she should, and Cinder looks no different.

It's a picture, we can't say correctly. If you measured from the withers with a tape then it's fine.

Just to correct you, she does not have unique colouring. She is dark bay (seal brown). If she was previously black then she has been sun bleached.

Cinder doesn't have unique coloring. She's brown/seal bay. Nothing special or different about it.

Anyway.

Cinder is flabby and unmuscled, which is why she looks thin. She's under in front and just looks "yuck" because she has no muscle whatsoever.

Swift looks much older than three. She's also unmuscled (not as bad as Cinder).

Neither of these are conformation shots--they both look pretty plain, almost ugly, because the photos are so poorly taken.

There=/=their=/=they're. Learn that.

They're probably the breeds it says on their papers. They look like scraggly unkempt little stock horses.

At least your t-posts are capped!

All I'm gonna say is I don't like the look of the chestnut's hind legs.

Go worm your horses please.