The most ridiculous violation notices by Yahoo! in the classical section?

This is exactly the same complaint which first brought you to the attention of many of the longer-term regular contributors.

This present complaint of yours is a Déjà vu.

This time, as Yogi Berra put it, "It's like déjà vu all over again!"

In none of the cases you cited did you answer the question - a fundamental violation.

In the first, you did not answer and were vaguely 'snippy' and insulting.

In the second, you did not answer the question.

In the third, you did not answer the question.

By those rules, yup, nothing 'unfair' AND, very important to know, the violations are handled BY SOFTWARE, not people.

...And you have brought the identical plaint couched in the same tone to us before. It seems that after a fair amount of personal attention and confidential advice given you, nothing much has changed.

Ironically, a wrong category drop is a violation while saying 'wrong category' is also a violation. Those are the rules - I'm not making that up.

Since 'wrong category' is a basic Y/A violation, it might be possible for those spending their energy so publicly in saying 'wrong category' to instead report those Q's as a violation. It takes several independent reports:

The correct of the two boxes must be selected.

the language (remember it is software) has to be simple, straightforward and as brief as if it were an old-fashioned telegram paid for at a dollar per word.

ex.

Wrong category

Pop music

But then, where would the fun of displaying your outrage or ability to recognize classical music go? LOL.

Outright rudeness added after the body of text in a question or in an answer frequently is effectively reported and deleted.

Obvious, snippy and lowly condescension is genuinely rude, but is perhaps less obvious to the software - IMHO, you seem to have a flair for it.

"Wrong category" responses are useless anyway - You seem to like to give this response often enough. It is genuinely upsetting to see the classical site littered with requests for 'romantic' songs like Yiruma (and we know they are not songs). Those 'corrector - marshals' forget that it is a violation to simply answer "Wrong category." and they also seem to have a delusion they are appointed primary school teacher / authorities and those kiddie posters are THEIR students. Well, NOT.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen a 'wrong category' where it would have been possible and simple enough to email the asker and inform them of their mistake. I do it all the time. That way they've been informed, and I am not risking either point deductions or a non-BA which would lessen my B/A percentage.

The stubbornness of some on this board to repeatedly echo "Not Classical" as an answer is to me as much an irritant as the wrong category questions are. If you are a regular here, it begins to be a presence which becomes a grating bore -- in a way it is far more irritating and disappointing because you know it comes from someone supposedly older, better-informed and theoretically wiser and more emotionally mature than the bunnies who post all those 'Yiruma / Katherine Jenkins "Opera" / film composer John Williams is the best modern classical composer, etc.' ad infinitum et ad nauseum questions which litter the board. Those TC's are contributing only more litter. Sometimes I think they need to buy their own country and appoint themselves Leader / Dictator or Emperor :-)

If you don't like the regulations, you don't have to play. This is an open, i.e. un-vetted, forum. Supposedly one has to be thirteen to have an account. The reality is that Y/A is open and available to anyone who can reach a keyboard, type a little and has access to a computer.

I've found it much more satisfying to choose your battles, select that which you answer with at least a shred of discernment, then answer what you can and will to the best of your ability. Far too many of a certain stripe here forget that at some point in their personal past -- They, Too, Knew Next To Nothing.

At times, I've gambled and calculatedly answered a Q asking for something like Yiruma with a list of classical fare which I hope might appeal to the asker, the intent being to bring them to better music. None of those have ever been reported Because I Answered The Question And Provided Good Information. There, you win some, you lose some. It is far more productive than the ignoble "Wrong Category, Wrong Category, Wrong Category," parrot-like refrain I see (IMHO) far too frequently on the board.

Other than that, you could join a forum where you have to qualify for admission to participate, or just, "Back away from that computer, Sir!" when it begins to get to you.

Your violations were genuine, the points deducted deserved, as per the rules. If you don't like it, don't write answers which are violations, or don't play.... Though certainly, it is time to cease playing the weepy and outraged violin.

Best regards.

P.s. "not rude," Yeah. Right.

There was a question about phyto-remediation and whether sunflowers could be useful to get rid of radiation. Phy... is the growing of plants to remove contaminants from soil. An answer was created and could not be logged - question removed. Why? Perhaps the questioner removed it, perhaps some one objected to the question.

If you are not prepared to do some research do not object to subjects.

I have noticed more questions being marked down when the comments are rather innocuous. Some very good contributions are marked down as well, the person doing the marking down presumably the only one not marked down. All comments contribute so perhaps an appeal to these people,

..........mark ' Up ' only. Locate the good stuff.

GL>

It's an automated process. No moderator is sifting through every single question and answer; if a certain number of users report a question or answer it gets deleted.

You may have picked up a report monkey who is going through your answers and reporting every one that could possibly be considered in violation of guidelines. Sometimes you make another user mad and they decide to get back at you by reporting everything, and sometimes they have multiple accounts to do it with. It's more prevalent in sections like Politics or Religion, but I'm sure it can happen anywhere.

Yahoo staff doesn't even look at the reports unless someone fights the violation notice.

Many of us suffer from chronic wrist-slap here. Badge of honor, maybe. But I know that you cannot answer a question with another question. And if you do no have your YA set to see only questions in English, you will get them in other languages, periodically. Unless you speak that language, you really cannot tell them to go elsewhere, can you?

Yes, we walk a narrow rail here - another one of the delights. That, and being cursed at my brats who will give you the BA, just so they can have one parting shot at you.(My favorite is when they then BLOCK you - so you cannot see the nasties they have written unless you log out, or use other internal devious tactics - NOT duplicate accounts - that seems to work.) And then there are those who post on their own profile page, that you - by name, which they spelled wrong, btw - are a terrible person with multiple accounts (wrong . . .) who is out to get them! Perhaps THAT can be posted in the Mental Illness section on YA?

On percentage, if we think we are doing OK, we stay. Sometimes - we leave.

Added - I *am* a Top Contributor, and I have to agree with FieryDog - this place IS childish - as in, mainly populated by kids. I contribute here to mainly help kids; I am in other Internet forums where I can discuss far more intellectual/musical things with adults and professionals. After a lifetime in music education, I still judge student festivals and competitions ( like NYSSMA and All-State competitions), but have my own separate, adult musical life - as do most of the OTHER pros who post here. We KNOW we are talking to kids - and some of them are truly hard-working and inquisitive, and others are lazy and foul-mouthed brats - a lot like the kids in the schools I taught in all those decades. You learn to sort. But on the other end - I am not here to give lengthy opinions to people who ask about 6th-comma mean-tone temperament - that is for a whole 'nuther place on the Net. People who are interested in things THAT arcane, should know where to find place to *play with boys and girls their own age*.

Some of us leave periodically - not in a snit, but because our adult/professional life actually demands our presence. And more and more, some of us also choose to SKIP certain questions - and if you tell the asker to refer to the Resolved Questions file, where you have answered this a hundred times before - you get a VIOLATION - here we go again.

Added 2- after Lainie - yes, there are people who are stalkers of sorts - I have a few who give me a TD on every single thing that they can find, that I have written that day. Breaks my little heart . . . . .

I think its terrifyingly annoying that they allot a space for CLASSICAL music. Yet people in this day and age consider CLASSICAL to be anything before 1970. Certainly the only correct solution is to break up the forums even further. A baroque, classical, and romantic section. Instead, this section caters to every single beginner who has a question about learning how to play the piano. Not the motivated kind either. The kind that are looking for any shortcut possible to learn how to play an instrument. Its a pitiful. sad. and childish forum from what I gather. I think I will continue to use yahoo answers to argue my sports and leave it at that because I haven't seen 1 question that even interests me in this section. I want to talk about Rachmaninoff Shostakovich Ravel Beethoven and Prokofiev, not how to find the "piano notes" to some random stupid song. Youtube is a much better median to meet and discuss classical music than here.

Edit: Of course the top contributors dislike what I have to say. After all, I indirectly diminish your role as a top contributer when I said this forum is childish. I do not mean literally, I am exaggerating how much an off-topic question irks me. I still think yahoo answers, by default is relatively childish, many young kids ask questions on these forums.

Welcome to the GROUP: those of whose who have suffered the same injustice from 'Yahoo's Question and Answers', as you have. This program is administered according to a set of guidelines which are not consistently logical, nor fair, nor just.

As "Mamianka" has suggested, consider your membership in this GROUP as a badge of honor. As to your loss (or gain) of points: most I would contend after participating here for a considerable amount of time, tend to relegate such concerns to the waster-basket of meaningless inconsequentials - they are essentially worthless; you can't even buy a toothpick nor napkin with a million of them.

My counsel: RELAX, and enjoy the sharing of your, and the knowledge and experience, of others: that's all that matters in the final analysis.

Alberich

Hey buddy,

Have you appealed your answers?. Just wait a day or two until you get the "your answer is still rejected" bot notice followed by the "Yahoo! survey" about how your appeal was processed. It gets more hilarious with each passing hour.

I've gotten the same thing.

I guess we're supposed to let people ask Phantom of the Opera questions all they want to.

I've had legitimate questions deleted and had my legitimate answers flagged all for stupid reasons. you are not alone. and they most likely delete every flagged thing to prevent arguements.