Same ol'question - What retired MLB players should belong in the Hall of Fame?

Catcher- Joe Torre, Ted Simmons, Bill Freehan

1st- Jeff Bagwell, Dick Allen, Keith Hernandez, Fred McGriff, John Olerud, Gil Hodges

2nd- Lou Whitaker, Bobby Grich, Willie Randolph, Cupid Childs

3rd- Ron Santo, John McGraw, Graig Nettles, Deacon White, Darrell Evans, Ken Boyer, Stan Hack, Lave Cross

SS- Bill Dahlen, Alan Trammell, Barry Larkin, Jack Glasscock, Maury Wills, Marty Marion, Herman Long

OF- Tim Raines, Minnie Minoso, Albert Belle, Indian Bob Johnson, Sherry Magee, Vada Pinson, Willie Davis, Dwight Evans, Doc Cramer, Dave Parker, George Van Haltren, Dale Murphy, Jimmy Wynn, Larry Walker, Harry Stovey, Cesar Cedeno, George Gore, Reggie Smith

DH- Edgar Martinez

SP- Jim McCormick, Charlie Buffinton, Luis Tiant, David Cone, Dave Stieb, Bret Saberhagen, Tommy John, Tony Mullane, Jim Kaat, Jack Morris, Dwight Gooden, Urban Shocker, Carl Mays, Ron Guidry, Bobby Matthews, Wes Ferrell

RP- Lee Smith, Dan Quisenberry, John Franco

OTHER- Marvin Millar

Saying that Player X got into the HoF, therefore Player Y should be is a terrible idea in general. You don't correct the error of one undeserving player by adding another. Would adding Alan Trammel magically kick out Eddie Murray? No? Then why let him in?

Ozzie was not selected for his offense, so saying that someone compares favorably to him is not saying much. Alan Trammel's was the fourth best player at his position. Lou Whitaker put together 5 All-Star seasons, but played for 20 years. Neither of them dominated the game, or accumulated the career stats that players like Ozzie or Cal did.

Kent Tekulve? A closer with less than 200 saves? WTF? Tommy John and his 12-win a year average? Steve Garvey, who compares poorly to Will Clark? Fred McGriff, the power hitter who had two seasons leading the league in HRs and who more often then not failed to hit 30?

Winning an MVP once is not a ticket into Cooperstown, and neither is a handful of All-Star appearances.

About the only people I could see on your list as being HoFer are Barry Larkin (who was almost as good at defense as Ozzie, and a far better hitter) and Tim Raines (who was a better on-base and base-stealling machine than anyone not named Rickey).

Ozzie is also the best defensive SS in history. Gehrig's career was cut short because of Lou Gehrig's Disease, and he was much better defensively. Also, McGriff hit HR's in a time where there were ten or more people hitting 30, when in Gehrig's time, only 2 or 3 did. Someone who should be in is Lee Smith, who had the most saves in history before Hoffman and Rivera, Don Mattingly, great hitter and fielder, Keith Hernandez, same, Tim Raines, lots of SB's and lost some hits because of all his walks, and Jack Morris, 300 wins. I don't even know who Tekulve is, so he shouldn't go in. Parker was good but not great, same with Whitaker and Trammell. John is interesting because of his revolutionary surgery, but that's what he's most famous for.

It's not a tired question till justice is done. Ron Santo, Tommy John, Barry Larking, Whitake and Trammel, Tim Raines, Gil Hodges, Dwight Evans, Dave Parker, and others. The voting method simply HAS to change.

Two names both so deserving Gil Hodges and Ron Santo.

Pete Rose, but be4 you trolls attack me I know that he was banned for betting on games