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Are all you conservatives on board for increased anti-terrorism profiling?

I've seen the argument that we should be expending our security screening efforts on those who "look" like terrorists, instead of old white grandmas. The reasoning being that you have a specific subset of the population that, based on their beliefs and behaviors, that you should be looking closer at, even if the vast majority of people who "look like a terrorist" aren't terrorists.

So now he have a massive terrorist bombing in Norway, where the bomber also went on a shooting spree. We know that the terrorist -

Was a fair-skinned, blonde, white male, probably Protestant Christian (80% of Norwegians are members of the Church of Norway).

He was a conservative in his political beliefs.

He was against immigration and Muslims, in particular.

He like to call liberals and anything non-conservative "Marxist."

Now, I'm against profiling, personally, because it is an ineffective time-waster, just like torture is, in terms of law-enforcement utility. But for those who think that's the answer, given this guy in Norway and Tim McVeigh, it's pretty clear that, by your own standards, we should be doing invasive body cavity searches and having people perform stupid human tricks if they "look like" they MIGHT be white adult conservative men. Don't you think?

Update:

Sorry, HD, but your 99.9999% figure is made up BS. I'd say "nice try," but you didn't even try to justify that with even a lame attempt at backing it up.

Update 2:

Other USA terrorists - Eric Rudolph, James W. Von Brunn, Andrew Joseph Stack - just because you choose to bury your head in the sand and are "not aware" of others doesn't mean they don't exist. The most comprehensive terrorist network in the USA, according to the RAND Corporation, is the Aryan Nation. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that they aren't predominantly Middle Eastern or Muslim.

I'm sure folks in northern Ireland will be surprised to hear that so many there died at the hands of Middle Eastern Muslims, as well.

Update 3:

curtis - Agreed. I was not referring to "behavioral profiling" which is not what conservatives are talking about, nor is it generally what we refer to when we talk about profiling practices in the USA. I have no problem with behavioral profiling.

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  • 10 years ago
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    Profiling, as practiced by the Israelis, is highly effective and is far more behaviorally-based than a judgment of looks. The way its done in this country is ridiculous.

  • 10 years ago

    Don't know much about police work (or probability) do you? Profiling...meaning picking on one race unreasonably, is wrong. However, using certain logical facts to form opinions to direct an investigation may also be termed profiling, and makes perfect sense.

    You are right about this Norwegian guy, who just like Timothy McVeigh was as 'white bread' as they come. However, statistically, they are a significant minority in the word of terrorism. mathematically, there is a significantly higher probability that a terrorist will be of middle eastern descent. Sorry, but that is a statistical fact. And, please keep in mind that many "terrorists' are european born who are not semitic, like the Chechnyans. Since it is impossible to completely screen everyone, at every time in every place, we have to use logical probability factors to screen for potential threats. (By the way, that is most significant when you consider we waste time frisking 5 year old white children and 80 year old african American ladies at our airports).

    In Israel, the Airport security is much more sophisticated and is based on detailed 'profiling' factors, and obviously, the Israeli have been doing a better job than we have (or the Brits of the Norwegians) in general, and they live in walking to distance to thousands of potential terrorists.

    So, we may miss people like McViegh and the Norwegian guy (of course, if we had more intrusive investigative powers, we might be able to do more prentive work), but for the most part we (speaking generaically for the western world) are doing a fair job

  • 4 years ago

    The assertion you have base you question on is carefully fake. decrease than Saddam Hussein the completed u . s . of Iraq lived decrease than a regime of terror. Stalwarts like your self will constantly refuse to contemplate this. Over eighty% of Iraqis are happy that the U. S. bumped off Saddam from potential in accordance to the manhattan circumstances. collectively as the occurrence of violence would have greater suitable, terror on an entire has decreased. protecting terrorists out of potential is basically as, if not greater important, than halting their assaults. Terror isn't basically perpetrated via violence, the mere threat of violence remains terror. we are residing in a black and white whilst it involves terror. you're the two completely against it or you're in choose of it. Saddam had over a decade to place down his hands and settle for the UN words. He refused. Saddam might and did do something he could to deliver united statesa. down. it particularly is not adequate to place people like Saddam in the corner and tell them that they have got been undesirable. they are going to by no potential supply up till they have the two finished their objectives or are lifeless. removing regimes who've now qualms approximately advocating, investment or using terror keeps not basically united statesa. greater secure yet is likewise making the worldwide greater secure place. Your failure to settle for which means you are the only one with whom actuality has no place. possibly you are able to evaluate the dictionary definition of terrorism particularly than putting your guy or woman. Terror is a physique of concepts greater suitable than that's a actual incident.

  • HD
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    10 years ago

    99.9999% of terrorist acts are committed by middle eastern appearing individuals. the guy in norway and mcveigh are isolated incidents and are the only two i know of carried out by "fair-skinned, blonde, white males" etc. i favor profiling, i believe anyone flying on a u.s. airline who looks middle eastern and named mohomad should be pulled aside, questioned and thoroughly searched, especially if i'm on that plane.

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