Is there a problem with Al Gore saying BS is BS?

Those are some pretty strong words from a politician. While I'd be a hypocrite to condemn him for using such language, the virgin ears of the public tend to turn red when hearing such talk from one of our great, honest and wonderful politicians (no that statement couldn't get anymore sarcastic if I tried).

I would image that Gore, as a major head piece campaigning against the dangers of AGW, is probably pretty sick or the recycled, crap arguments you hear in every venue imaginable from the "skeptics." If I were him, I'd have blown my lid by now and probably be in a nut-house somewhere.

Long story short, no there is nothing wrong with calling BS, I do think it is the job of politicians to do so diplomatically though, but the "skeptics" getting their panties in a twist just reinforces what an emotionally based lot they are and what a narrow margin of reality their critical focus falls on.

There is no problem with what Al Gore said. It's about time we step up. The "right" is not playing with with a full deck. Look what trying to be nice about this has done in the last decade. It's moved America further away from a rational response to science to entrenched, believe it when it's convenient, ideology. There is no way forward without fighting fire with fire. We just have to make sure we're "burning" a cleaner fuel.

I don't have a problem with it, although it is questionable how effective his tactics may be. People may object to a 'politician' talking like this, but Gore is a private citizen. Heck, compared with the show Romney put on in Iowa today, getting in a shouting match with somebody, Gore calling bullshit is minor.

Romney-Presidential Candidate-losing it at a campaign rally because he was heckled vs. Gore-Private Citizen-saying bullshit during a speech.

Hmm. Hmm. I could care less about Gore or Romney, but let's keep things in perspective here, folks. If someone vying for the leadership of the free world can't handle a heckler at a campaign stop, how is he going to handle hostile foreign governments? If Gore feels the need to say bullshit, how exactly does that matter in the greater scheme of things? Answer: it doesn't.

You are always going to get negative comment on Gore from deniers, no matter what,

Some like Jim will blame him for what his parents did (in a time when few knew smoking was an issue) if I recall (from ICT) Gores own sister also died of a smoking related illness.

In the public arena deniers have been getting away with a lot, for some time with little challenge from those like Gore, as long as they are being funded the diehards will continue to spread the rubbish they claim is science. I don't know if Gore is taking a lead from the Australian Prime Minister (Julia Gillard) but a couple of weeks ago at a press gallery lunch she broke from her usual speech format of being almost robotic and addressed one member of the press directly saying 'if you stopped printing c%%p there would not be so much confusion on the climate issue' Australian politics is a little different to the U.S. and this statement got her considerable positive press. My version is not word for word but she certainly used the "C" word.

I can't help but laugh when I see repeated comments from deniers like flossie and others about how 'warmies' are insulting and attack peoples characters, when deniers have been doing exactly that for years. As far as the use of the BS statement, I have used it myself many times here on the ever changing list of denier theories and conspiracy so I can't really condemn Gore for using it, I, on this occasion, I agree with him, in fact.

According to "Inconvenience Truth" the planet only had until 2008 to stop the out of control warming.

Now it is TOO LATE.

Most people (95-99%) are going to die from hurricanes, droughts, tornadoes flooding and blizzards before the year 2019.

Only the very rich people like Al Gore will survive the coming climate apocalypse in their underground mansions.

The relentless demagoguery from the far right in the US during the late 20th and early 21st century will be seen by historians as a turning point.

A substantial portion of multiple generations of the population has now been completely brainwashed with right wing propaganda.

Whether this will lead to a fascist state, or a backlash that smacks them down once-and-for-all, remains to be seen.

I'm all for calling people out. In spades.

You come into my home, the discussion brushes along the edges of something substantial (religion, the economy, abortion, gay rights, the environment, politics) and you start in with some ignorant theocratic, pseudo-scientific, pseudo-intellectual crap and then have the gall to get bent out of shape when you are called out on it. Here's what you can do: bring a coherent argument, take your lumps or STFU. If you won't shut up then GTFO of my house.

It's time to stop coddling these jackasses.

Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. But its not necessarily productive either. Letting yourself [or the issue] get mired in this BS is not going to win hearts and minds. It plays into the hands of the BS artists whose aim is to confuse and distract.

So it is incumbent on all thinking people to actually speak out and tell it as it is. Simply ignore the loonies who keep echoing the lies and take back the language and the discussion.

The latest tactic seems to be to say, well even if there is a threat associated with climate change, we can't do anything because economic times are tough. They will always be too tough for some. It is in fact imperative that action is taken now not later.

The good news is that an increasing number of governments and corporations have understood the science and are moving ahead, not always with a lot of fanfare, but just moving ahead.

Look at the variety of electric vehicles now available and more on the drawing board. Look at some of the innovative energy harvesting technology being developed. There are developments all around.

In a shorter time than some deniers would like, their 19th century technology will simply be obsolete.

Those researchers and corporations leading the way will make huge profits for their share holders. Those governments leading the way will be fondly remembered.

Those spouting BS will be remembered just as we remember the Luddites of history...as stupid and willfully ignorant even somewhat insane.

New technology to watch...

Direct light to chemical fuels syntheses using cerium oxide.

Nickle and iron based enzymes to replace platinum catalysts in electrolysis of water.

Combined super capacitor/Li Battery units.

Bio Char to store C in soils while producing chemical feed stocks and bio fuels from waste plant materials. [Carbon negative technology]

Bull #$%6 actually is bull #$$* ...this is scientifically true. 'Deniers' at this point deal in bull #$%, and that also is scientifically true. There's no real point to talk with these people. It's like talking about 'gay rights' with the Pope or raising taxes with any of the GOP/Teabag/Fox 'News'/Jesus party clones I saw on TV tonight. All we can do is to do what we can...if we 'lose' we're all $%^ed. If we 'win' it will be at best not really enough. People will suffer...lots of people. That's history in the making!

It's not the language I would choose to use, but everything he said was true. I'm no big fan of the left, but unfortunately the extreme right has made the US all but dysfunctional. There can't be rational discussion on climate, or on the economy, or whatever.

Lloyd J, the increase of CO2 is more like 40%. You've either been duped or you're trying to dupe other people.

On one hand deniers want to throw climatologists in jail and approve of death threats and email hacks against these same climatologists. Yet, when Al Gore says BS is BS, he is a big bad meanie. This is typical of denialist hypocrisy.