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Is it too late for me to negotiate my salary?
After attending two interviews, I have been offered a position as an admin assistant at a school. The company I currently work for is facing hard times and my position is unstable. I have been working in a more senior administrative position in a school which has allowed me to have more power and influence in the day to day operations of both the office and school. The position I interviewed for was less senior but I was convinced it paid about 10K more (I am seriously underpaid for my current position)..I was offered the new job yesterday on the phone and was asked my salary range expectation so I said between 35-45K (hoping to get 40K). The lady on the phone (my future supervisor, not someone from HR) said 'well i can definitely say that it will be towards the lower end of your range.' She proceeded to discuss the benefits that sounded good and then told me I was receive 6 weeks paid vacation a year. I was really surprised and it made me question the whole salary I was expecting and how it would be affected (as in Canada, the norm is 2-3 weeks paid a year). She then phoned me back and left a voicemail saying the salary is 37,500. It sounded good and I stupidly didn't negotiate further which I'm really regretting now, especially as I found out that as I am starting 3 months after their year started (it runs aug-aug), i will receive pro-rated holiday, so instead of 6 weeks paid it would 4.5 weeks (so I am basically earning about $1000 less in the first year). Also, I told them I was planning on going back home for Christmas and she said 'well obviously that would be unpaid or we would have to work something out.' Now i'm thinking about it more and more, my annual salary for this next year if i do start the job, will be more like 35,500 than 37,500. There is no option for me to work in the vacation period as it's a school so I'm just really anxious about signing the contract today (I have to go in and read it through and sign it). I know everywhere I read online says it's now too late but I wondered if there was any hope. The employer is very professional and I don't want to appear unprofessional but it really wasn't made clear at the time of the offer than the weeks would be unpaid and it would affect my salary so much. I said yes after my future supervisor left a voice mail stating the annual salary but only after this did she mention that it would be unpaid. Is it too late??
And I forgot to mention - what shall I even say to them?? I think 37,500 is a fair salary but now I realize it's more like 35,500 (not so great). I totally understand about them not paying me for my vacation after being newly hired in the position but my biggest problem is that the salary they stated isn't actually accurate considering i can't make up the time elsewhere in the year.
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- jmorgeLv 610 years agoFavorite Answer
Well first off your math logic is a little off. You state that instead of getting the full 6 weeks of paid vacation you'll only be getting 4.5 weeks the first year and because of that you'll be earning $1000 less the first year. That's not true. You're only losing 1.5 weeks of paid time off. But you're still getting paid....you just have to work those days instead of sitting at home. Look at it this way, if the salary is 37500 a year, with or without vacation, you'll still be earning 37500 a year. The only difference is that on some days you can stay at home at watch TV and still get 37500/year.
Now on the subject of the time you're taking off at Christmas that will be unpaid. That's just something you'll have to talk to them about. But keep in mind that you'll only be working for less than 2 months before you start taking time off. It's a little un-realistic in my opinion for you to work for 2 months and then expect to get a paid vacation so soon. I don't know of too many companies that would allow you to have a paid vacation after such a short time of working. Most companies require you to work a full year before you get any paid time off.
Sounds to me like they are being more than fair. First, they didn't try to low-ball you on the salary and offered you a salary higher than the low end of your range. Second, they give 6 weeks paid vacation! That's unheard of for most companies. In most companies, people have to work 10-15 years before they're eligible for that much vacation. Most places only give 2 weeks vacation for new hires. To give 6 weeks after the first year is awesome. And finally, the fact they are willing to let you take any time off (paid or not) after only 2 months of work is pretty understanding of them.
- ?Lv 710 years ago
You haven't signed anything, so it's isn't too late. But keep in mind that the potential employer will have the option to withdrawal the offer when you try to negotiate. Chances are, they won't do that, but it's a risk you take. Most employers won't allow a new employee to take a paid vacation after working for a month or two, so that should have been expected. Keep in mind that if the benefits at this job (including health insurance, retirement, etc.) are better than at your current job, you might actually make more money, even though you may see less of it in your pocket.
But the salary is accurate. Your base salary is $37,500. Beginning August 2012, you'll be paid $37,500 annually. You can't expect to get paid a full year's salary and get a full year of paid vacation if you don't work the full year. And like the other person said, $1000 or even $2000 isn't a big deal. If you're a good employee, you'll get a raise in no time.
- ?Lv 710 years ago
You appear to have unrealistic expectations of what this employer will do for you. You should not make this an issue if you need a job. The job offer can easily be withdrawn. I'm sure that they will not have a problem finding someone else who is perfectly happy with the offer. Earning $1000 less in the first year should not be a problem.