So, does NDAA effect US citizens or not?

My congressman sent me a reply after i sent a scathing email about it.

He says no and lists some bullshit paragraph. I'm both angry and insulted that he thinks I'm that stupid.

YES, it does affect US citizens.

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I want to assure you this bill authorizes no such policies. In fact, the bill includes two sections designed specifically to emphasize that the detention provisions do not apply to American citizens.

First, Section 1021(e) of the Conference Report explicitly states "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States."

Second, Section 1022(b)(1) clarifies that procedures of military detention cannot be extended to American citizens by stating "The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States." While the President is granted the ability to waive the previously established requirements necessary for military detention in cases where he has submitted to Congress a certification that it is in the best interest of national security, he still cannot waive the U.S. citizen exemption.

This language has been included to specifically address fears that Americans could be imprisoned in military facilities instead of receiving the rights of due process guaranteed to us by the Constitution. These lawful detention procedures apply only to those who aided in the planning of the 9/11 attacks or those people who are a part of or are substantially supporting al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or forces that would seek to harm our military or our coalition partners. But, again, U.S. citizens do not fall into this covered class of individuals.

@Okla State Alum (Nacho Victory!): England was already a theocracy. Guy Fawkes was a Jesuit that was fighting the protestant theocracy in favor of a catholic one. It was simply another case of protestants vs non-protestants. Either way it is irrelevant, because they're making more of a reference to the V for Vendetta movie than to the actual Guy Fawkes. In the movie, the hero "V" fights against a military state, that is the point being made.

I agree with "Anonymous" that the NDAA is completely in violation of our individual freedom. Although the video was quite sensationalist, the visual effects and the playing of Mozart's requiem is a little over the top. But I guess sometimes you need to be sensationalist, otherwise most people remain indifferent.

It gives the military the right to whisk you away in the middle of the night if you are suspected of terrorism and to be detained for an indefinite period of time without council or trial. In other words, you disappear from the face of the earth with no hope of rescue, guilty or innocent. It makes the US a battleground subject to military control. It is completely unconstitutional. We wouldn't know whether he used it or not.

It refers to suspected terrorists, those suspected of aiding terrorists, and beligerents. By "beligerent" I guess that means anyone that chooses not to kiss a pigs *** or answer any questions that same pig might have. A good waterboard session will get him to talk.

Check this out;

Both MSM parties (republicans and democrats) are heavily reliant on emotion. (the voters are a jury that has proven to be incapable of making logical decisions) please consider this;

I look up bills on govtrack.us. I can also see the bill sponsors and voting record of senate and congress.

At least w/ SOPA King B Hussein Obama will not need to sit and wait w/ his internet kill switch. It will be done automatically. In addition please consider this;

FEMA camps and NDAA are the real thing. (just like an Orwellian Utopia) You'll be gettin' the eff out of dodge to avoid some kind of urban uprising because of a disaster or emergency and about 30 or 40 miles out of town traffic will stop. Military stormtroopers will walk through stopped traffic and warn people to stay in their cars. When you get to the roadblock ahead you will be told to get out of your car (leave your keys and belongings in the car and DO NOT bring any weapons.) Then you will wait in a holding area for a bus and go to one of their internment facilities for in-processing. Hopefully you will not get to play any of their games (waterboarding, solitary confinement, etc) But don't worry, 6 fully staffed waterboards means you won't have a long line to wait in.

NDAA (just signed into law by Barack Hussein Obama) will be used to authorize the whole thing, Did you read the book or see the movie "1984"? That's what it is. It allows any federal agency to declare an emergency and use the military forces to impose martial law. What they are doing in the mid east (door to door searches without warrants or any due process whatsoever) is only a rehearsal of what they have in store for us here. This is an article I wrote for another section.

Do the police need a warrant to search me or my property? Under aspects of the US Constitution, all persons are protected from unwarranted searches and any other form of arbitrary harassment. Unfortunately modern courts have misinterpreted the intentions of the founding fathers who authored the US Constitution and Bill of Rights to give the police the power at their discretion to use "probable cause." Police should not be allowed to lawfully act on suspicions or whims, and any action against any person should be deemed unconstitutional. This also includes any electronic surveillance such as wiretaps, directional mics, etc. Of course under aspects of the "Patriot Act" they will claim that it is to protect us from terrorists. They also claim that states need to implement a REAL ID program so that sheeple can be digitally mapped for easy identification to once again... protect us from terrorists. Meanwhile, the southern border is wide open to basically let in whoever wants to come for whatever reason.

The fact is this; the enforcement of drug and firearm prohibition has allowed the government to turn this country into a pig powered police state and everyday it is becoming more and more like the USSR. You might like all of this "protection" but personally I prefer to protect myself. If you are the kind of person that wants to give up your liberty for security then please go somewhere else like China or N Korea.

Source(s):

HR 504 (died in session but it will return) HR 1540 (NDAA 2012) signed into law 12-31-2011 by King B. Hussein Obama

Did you know that Guy Fawkes sought to set up a theocracy in England?

Yes it does.

First of all, it's "affect". Second of all, yes. It applies to US citizens.

obama said he wont detain US citizens, would he lie to you?