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movngfwd asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 9 years ago

Global warming question?

Why all the pessimism in Global Warming ?

Why are ALL the negative effects presented and not the good ones ?

PROS for Canada:

1. Canada looks forward to the melting of the Arctic Seas. Such that there is a North West Passage for shipping. This will lead to jobs and more (most) shipping to North America via Arctic passage (royalties to Canada ) instead of going through Panama. This would save millions of dollars for shipping companies (not to mention the carbon foot print would be minimized)

2. Warmer weather means the permafrost areas would move further north... hence freeing up fertile lands in the Prairies. Means more food production for Canada. We could supply more food to those areas in need (perhaps for those people who live in desert areas)

3. Warming would mean an increase in water supply to our acquifers. The water cycle would (water vapour being the biggest contributer to the green house effect, would mean that the hydrocyle would be amplified..... not that Canada needs more water... but the excess fresh water could be shipped to other countries of need) more jobs... more revenue.

again.... can anyone describe why Canada should be concerned (or be signing the Kyoto Accord)

As for polar bears..... they will survive... they have managed to survive for 1000's of years.... and during many ups and downs in the global temps... so lets leave out the ecosystem portion out of the answers. (save for another question)

thanks !

Update:

I don't need statistics... or proof... i just want it to HAPPEN ! Why can't those who believe in Global warming see the benefits ? if there are any ? there must be some... ??? no ? Come on scientists..... we don't ALL live in a doom and gloom World? Global warming optimism: is there such a thing ?

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  • ?
    Lv 6
    9 years ago
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    It is all about eco guilt, nothing more.

    If you want to know to know the intent behind AGW/ACC, read the entire answer, and read what they are saying in their own words quoted, so there can be no misunderstandings of their actual intent.

    Actually, the whole reason AGW/ACC exists at all, is to get countries to sign the Copenhagen Treaty (like what the AGW/ACC promoters want), to give the UN COP absolute control over the US economy and society (in their own words below). They have drafted a 181 page document outlining that they will have absolute authority unquestioned and unaccountable to no one but themselves (in their own words).

    These are a few statements that are legally binding for the countries that surrender their rights to the UN COP. Segments of the expose are shown below, and an expanded expose is at:

    http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/images/PDFs/U...

    (though not a full list of their demands and aspirations)

    (the COP is Conference of Parties, an established organization by the UN for a one world government, and "Convention" is the countries that surrender to the COP through the treaty.)

    Page 39, #32

    "Funds will be under the control of the COP as the supreme authority of the Convention."

    The COP will have unconditional, unrestricted power over the economy and society. Why is this stated if it is all about science, and nothing to do with a one world government and absolute global rule???

    Page 18, #36

    "..adoption and carrying out of public policies, as the prevailing instrument, to which the market rules and related dynamics should be subordinate, in order to assure the full, effective and sustained implementation of the Convention."

    Market rules and dynamics subordinate???? This IS what has caused the current global economic meltdown - Market rules and dynamics subordinate.

    Page 7, #3

    "a major obstacle to efforts to promote [sustainable] economic and social development [and to [reduce] poverty] [eradication] [promote poverty aliviation,] [which are the first and overriding priorities of all developing countries]."

    If it about AGW, why is poverty eradication the primary and overriding priority????

    Page 18, #38 (a)

    " The government will be ruled by the COP"

    Does the US want a foreign dictator to have absolute rule over society and the economy???

    Page 29, (q)

    "Any lack of full scientific certainty should not be used as a reason to postpone or scale down action on adaptation];"

    It is suppose to be about irrefutable science. Why would this be stated if there is any lack of certainty? - because it is all about a lack of science certainty for the claim of Global Warming.

    Page 78, #4

    "economic and social development and poverty eradication are the first and overriding priorities"

    Poverty eradication again?? Stated many times. Isn't this issue about saving the planet??

    Page 87, #77

    "A separate pool of funding to finance national coordinating bodies through a direct line item in the secretariat’s budget shall be established. Such support shall not be subject to measurement, reporting and verification."

    Poverty eradication is named numerous times. The COP will have absolute and unconditional authority, and billions of US dollars will be extorted to fund their pet projects and no one will know where the billions will go - i.e. Page 87, #77, second sentence - "Such support shall not be subject to measurement, reporting and verification."

    Check out this publication of exposing only a few segments and statements shown in full so there can be no misunderstanding of their intended objectives in the statements and what the sections translate to mean.

    http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/images/PDFs/U...

    The full 181 page document is at:

    http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2009/awglca7/eng/i...

    http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/10...

    Science and AGW/ACC has nothing to do with the issue. By the way, by 1933 the world was to be in turmoil caused by AGW/ACC according to publications in 1922 -

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/you-ask-i-pr...

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/science/globalwarmi...

  • Jeff M
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Your first two points have been talked about quite a lot in here. Your third point is false. As the amount of water vapour increases in the atmosphere, for those rain-prone areas, the amount of rainfall will increase as well as will the amount of flooding.

    http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/number-of-flood-ev...

    And what happens to the fresh water supply when flooding occurs? It becomes contaminated. There will actually be a loss of fresh water, through flooding and contamination, rather than a gain.

    http://pdm.medicine.wisc.edu/Volume_25/issue_3/du....

    Canada, however, will see more benefits compared to other countries as long as those pests, such as the bark beetles, stay south of the border. The end result of that being a severe loss of trees.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    The bad, non-ecological effects are:

    - loss of arable land elsewhere, so emigration into Canada will be required.

    - loss of coastline, as low lying areas are flooded (so property lines will have to be adjusted).

    - loss of crops, and crops become less suitable as food, so we will have to eat one another.

    No Global Warming does not require that more water be dropped anywhere useful, or at a time where crops can benefit, like Canada.

    As Global Warming increases, the ozone layer get more depleted. And you had the record-sized northern ozone hole over you just last year (2011).

  • Maxx
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Because you can't guilt-trip the masses into accepting devastating carbon taxes if you put a happy-face on global warming.

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