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For "can ya prove god isn't real"-Amanda/others, does the bible/another "holy" book REALLY prove anything?

Alright, I'm a self-professed agnostic, grew up Catholic, then Baptist, then Pentecostal, so several diff. "branches" of Christianity, and bout the ONLY thing the bible (which I HAVE read completely) ever proved to me is that it was written, by HUMAN HANDS! Now I don't come here to fight, or anything, but I consider myself a logical/thinking person, & the more of I've thought on this subject, the less credible it ultimately becomes! And I GET IT, some of you have had this idea SO ENGRAINED in your heads, by family, friends, pastors/preachers/priests, or whomever, that letting go of it is TOUGH!!! And me asking this question is prob. NOT gonna change anybody's mind, one way or the other!!! But for those of you who DO have strong religious beliefs, is having something written somewhere, like in a book, ENOUGH PROOF for you? Or somebody telling you about it, swearing to it or whatever, good enough proof either? I've almost fallen prey to that on MANY, MANY occasions! As I stated at first, I went through many diff. phases/branches of my religious beliefs. And each & every time the result was the SAME! NOTHING special happened to me, and very few of my prayers were answered, and the same % of good/bad, prob. would've happened whether or not, I had religious affiliations or NOT! But I DO KNOW one thing for sure, my mind's NOT gonna be swayed JUST by something I READ somewhere !!! And I have allot more faith that aliens exist in the universe, outside of our solar system, or wherever, than that a deity exists, & put us here on earth, just to watch us KILL each other & to suffer, and so many other horrible things. Because if God existed, he/she/it is NOT ONLY the mastermind behind us (the human race), but also to war, murder, disease, famine,greed, poverty, people who DON'T care for their fellow man/woman & the list goes on n on until the end of time. So if reading a book, & believing everything in it, without question, is what works for you, then good luck with that !!! But I've grown up, became educated, and religion just doesn't make much sense to ME anymore!!! So basically, what I trying to say is, I need MORE than just a book or a person telling me something, BEFORE I'll commit to it, like some people I've known/heard of/experienced who are SO passionate about their "god" of choice!!!

Sorry this was SO long !!!

*& if you'd like to discuss this further, FEEL FREE to email me !!! Cuz I'm NOT like those who ask "prove god doesn't exist" or whatever, BUT have their email option DISABLED in their profiles here in Y/A !!!

Update:

Quoting bible verses is NOT answering my question, so y'all can STOP doing that!!! AND quoting bible verses is NOT gonna get me to change my views on the subject !!! So you're wasting your time / effort with doing that !!! Just answer the question !!! Is JUST the bible, or whatever holy book, make ya think this/that way? That's ALL I care to know!!! Quoting the bible or any other holy book is NOT proof !!! Give me quantifiable / measurable proof, NOT bible verses !!! I'm NOT trying to be difficult, but the answers from people who just wanna quote that stuff is NOT proof enough for me !!! Because doin that, ONLY makes me think ya believe ANYTHING ya read !!!

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    Well, in my opinion, the "proof" lies within your mind / heart / and your experiences. Because ya know how many holy books have been written throughout the ages, right? So if one's right, what makes all the others wrong? And who's to say that any of them are "right" to begin with? Because man, as a species, has been searching for the meaning to their existence since almost the very beginning of time. So undoubtedly, there were people out there who saw that as an opportunity, to either make names for themselves, or to lead other people, so then they conjure up something, then swear to it's relevance and authenticity, and most people around the world & throughout time are/were easily duped. So it's very easy to believe something that's presented, if you're in need of something to believe in. Because "beggars" can't be "choosers" usually. And the weak minded / willed, are usually the easiest to mislead, thru written or spoken word. And if not allot of thought goes in to your actions, then you might be the next to be "hoodwinked"! I'm just saying.

    But it's each individual's right to decide what's right for their own selves, even though some others may try to influence them.

  • 9 years ago

    The Bible is telling us our future...

    A world where wickedness will be no more...

    Done through and FOR Jesus, but by his father, Jehovah.

    (Psalm 37:9) For evildoers themselves will be cut off, But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth.

    (Psalm 37:11) But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

    (Psalm 37:29) The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.

    (Psalm 37:34) Hope in Jehovah and keep his way, And he will exalt you to take possession of the earth. When the wicked ones are cut off, you will see [it].

    Source(s): NWT
  • Daver
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Dude, BOTTOM LINE it for me. I'm so NOT reading all that.

    Show some respect for our time, will ya!

    GEESE, the nerve on YOU, thinking I've got nothing better to do than cater to your rant!

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Holy wall-o-text Batman!

    I think it's your bed time, you're taking this site way too seriously.

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  • 9 years ago

    i think your caps button is f*cked

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    God created a set number of angels 30 billion?; 1/3 of all angels rebelled 10 billion?God turned the rebels into spiritual darkness (demons) and expelled them from heaven. there was a void in heaven of 10 billion open seats.God decided to create humans to replace the demons. God said that He will let demons trick people into following them, but when 10 billion seats in heaven are filled, God will send demons and those who follow demons to hell. demons dress in fake human skin and fly in ufo ships;pretend to be angels of light, ghosts, pagan gods, greys, ouija board movers.jigsaw from saw movie is not only gay but he's antichrist. when people will look at jigsaw, they will see many angels surrounding jigsaw, but in reality those are demons. the main demon is black with red eyes. antichrist is white with red eyes. if anyone worships jigsaw, they'll go to hell 100%. also, soon the world government will be giving mandatory small grey world passport. when people stretch their hands to receive the small grey world passport, a small green electronic tattoo with sixes will be given by lasers. if anyone receives this tattoo, they'll go to hell 100%. people who kill themselves wind up in hell 100%. also, people who blaspheme the Holy Spirit, go to hell as well. God is one but decides to reveal Himself to the world in three distinct persons: as God the Father, as God the Son (Jesus Christ), and as God the Holy Spirit. now, let's switch to the ufo bases that the demons built. they are located on the moon, in lake baikal, underneath mariana trench (atlantis is here), and inside a fake mountain in tibet (buddhists consider this mountain holy, but as was mentioned, pagan gods are demons). there was also a time when 200 angels told God that they would fare better than humans if they had human bodies (angels and demons don't have bodies - they're just spirits). God told them that He could give them human bodies but if they mess up, He'll punish them severely. these 200 spirits agreed to take this deal. what happened was that when these 200 angels (aka anunaki in pagan beliefs) descended on a mountain in middle east, they saw beautiful female descendents of cain, and took them wives for themselves. these 200 anunaki had giants as kids. giants built the pyramids and other colossal monuments around the world. anunaki taught witchcraft, astrology, blood drinking, human sacrifice, abortion, art of war, etc. God became angry and punished the world for following anunaki. anunaki were imprisoned underneath a desert in middle east. 300 thousand giants and 700 thousand people who followed anunaki and other demons were drowned in world flood. only 8 people were saved in the flood. me and u are descendents of these 8 (noah with his wife, and their three sons with three daughters-in-law) who survived in an ark-ship. animals that knelt before noah went into the ark with noah. animals that didn't kneel were drowned. a bit later, nimrod (world leader) and his wife semiramis (she was in charge of a brothel) created a one state pagan religion (sun-moon-bull-sex worship). nimrod was also in charge of building the tower of babel. this tower was built by masons who wanted to reach heaven and fight God and establish pagan religion in heaven. this was silly, to say the least. God burned the top third of this tower, sank the bottom third inside the earth, and changed the original language into 70 different languages. so, one third of builders killed each other because of misunderstanding, one third ran away, and one third were cursed to become apemen and elephantmen. silly atheists claim that we come from apes when in reality apemen were cursed masons. hindu religion has an elephantman deity. this is absurd. let's get to something even weirder. 80 foot dinosaurs live beneath the earth. they will soon come out through lakes and sinkholes. this is a punishment for spreading ideas of evolution. major climate change will follow. there won't be any clean water left. world government will hide food on purpose too. stores with food will be set up to laser people with the above-mentioned evil tattoo. it's better to die from hunger than receive this tattoo. now, let's go to the main message of christianity. God incarnated (took on human body) to die for our sins so that we can go to heaven. now why was this necessary? well, remember the 10 billion seats from before? yep, they're all empty because everyone went to hell. there were only 2 people that went to heaven (enoch and elijah). so, God didn't want all people to burn in hell, so He provided a cure for this - He died on the cross for our sins and went to hell to pick "believers in Him during their lives on earth" to take them to heaven. now most people go to hell too, but christians don't. why? because God said that if you believe in what He did for you on the cross, and feel sorry for your sins, and stop sinning, you'll go to heaven.

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