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whats the order for denying pcs orders?
whats the order for denying pcs orders?
im a cpl in okinawa japan im still on my first enlistment and im about to pcs. i told my ssgt i'd prefer to go to pendleton but anything in the west coast or east coast would be fine except 29 palms.... i got my orders today to go to 29 palms i leave in 3 moths is it possible to deny them i get out of the marine corps in a year and 3 months.
whats a "declination of orders"? where can i get it? what are the consequences?what exactly does it do?
8 Answers
- John ULv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
A Dec is a statement that you will neither reenlist nor extend to meet the time remaining in service requirements to be moved to another assignment.
For instance if you had 8 months left the day you PCS'd and you are required to reenlist or extend to PCS for time on station requirements at 29 Palms you can decline to reenlist or extend. Keep in mind that once you do this you cannot receive Any Favorable actions, awards, assignments, Promotions etc. but you will sit it out until you get out at the end of your term. They can still send you for the time you have remaining year you have left as that is usually the amount of time you need anyway so your best approach is to Let It Go. If you sign a Dec, you are still going but now, you will be forced out. In another year you might have a change of heart and want to stay in but now you shot yourself in the foot per se but at the same time, if you have enough time remaining in service to make the PCS Without Reenlisting or Extending, there is no option of signing a Dec, you are going, might be kicking and screaming, but your going.
- Anonymous5 years ago
If you have special family circumstances you can ask for a humanitarian or hardship conditions and get the orders changed. In the Air Force they have (had) a seven day option. You could refuse orders within 7 days of receipt with the understanding you were going to get out of the service. The catch was they could either keep you 6 months if they needed you or they could immediately separate you if they did not need you. I would expect the Marines could simply kick you out if you do not want to accept the orders. And is it just that PCS location that you do not want or are you going to refuse them all? You can not "homestead" at one base for your entire career.
- MrsjvbLv 79 years ago
they are called orders.. you don't get the choice. if you decline, they can STILL send you there, they will just not make you extend for the full 2 years or however long they are for. and during that time frame you will not be allowed to be advanced or receive any other favorable action.. you will be stuck in limbo.
don't forget that ALL contracts are 8 years total and if they really wanted to be rotten, they could Involuntarily extend you for the entire length of the orders regardless.
Declinations are really only useful to people who have only a few months left on an enlistment. you have a full year.
is it really worth the effort? maybe instead of bitching about it you find something to not hate about 29 Stumps.
- jeeper_peeper321Lv 79 years ago
You cannot deny PCS orders-- EVER
1. You can deny reenlisting or extending your enlistment to have enough time in service, to accept the PCS orders
2. But in your case, you will have enough time in service for the PCS ( 12 months )
So you have no choice in the matter.
3. A DEC statement, just means you refuse to reenlist or extend to have enough TIS to be able to accept the PCS orders
Doesn't apply in your case, because you have enough TIS
4. Your going to 29 Palms, nothing you can do about it.
NOTE: there are no penalties for a first enlistment service members who signs a DEC, you can refuse to reenlist or extend to accept orders, then later, reenlist or even later extend to accept different orders
DEC statements only have penalties for service members who have reenlisted at least once.
Been there done that -- had orders for a long tour to Guam, needed to extend for 2 years to accept the PCS - declined the orders
2 months later got orders to Guam again, this time short tour and needed to extend for 4 months to accept the orders -- this time i extended
But i could have signed a 2nd DEC and refused the orders, and still reenlisted at the end of my enlistment
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- Marine5Lv 79 years ago
Cpl...Stop your whining...
You Sound like a "Middle School Drama Queen"...
Just do what Marines have been doing for over Two Hundred years...
Pack your Sh*t and go where you are told to go...
Your Skate POG job is over on Oki...
Could Volunteer for Afghanistan ???
Source(s): Retired Marine...VSO... - ?Lv 49 years ago
If your in for less than 3 years you will proably be discharged with a admin discharge, maybe an article 15
- Anonymous9 years ago
Joe, do not extend your enlistment. They can still send you but just until the end of your enlistment................................