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Christians where was god in......?

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/13/son-dies...

where was god in this event?

look in the bible

In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:

Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:

For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

Matthew 21:21:

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.

Mark 11:24:

Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

john chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:

"I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."

how much more faithful can you get than to not give your son treatment for something life threatening?

Some might bring up the objection that these verses aren't to be taken literally. Firstly, the verses themselves are certainly written like they should be taken literally. Secondly, if this objection is used the believer must provide an objective reason why these verses are non-literal. If no reason can be provided then the verses should continue to be taken literally.

this is one of the main reasons why i left Christianity

No one usually comments on the verses and gives some argument that would mean Jesus was a liar .Seriously this is THE main reason why i left Christianity.The child may not be in heaven because he could of denounced Christianity because he seen prayer was not working.If it is just gods will why pray at all.It was god's will that he die a painful death wow sounds like a great god alright.Why put murderers and rapist in jail they are just doing gods will.You Christians have no defense for this every defense you have goes against your very bible.Christians often state that God can answer prayers in one of three ways; "yes", "no", or "wait". This makes God no different from random chance. After all, when you pray it can either happen (i.e. God answers "yes"), not happen (God answers "no), or you have to wait to see if it will happen (God answers "wait"). A milk jug can answer prayers in those three ways so what difference would it make if these people would of prayed to a milk jug?It wouldn't of made any difference it just requires a little logical thought to realize god is imaginary

Update:

I have yet to see a good argument and the milk jug can answer prayers in the illusion of yes if i pray to a milk jug that i get money and the next day i get an irs tax return it seems like it was yes.Just like god.A S yes i did truly know god i accepted his son Jesus who i believed was god made flesh i believed he died on the cross for my sins and i asked him for forgiveness.I no longer believe in that.Do not tell me i did not truly know 'god' when you don't know me

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  • 9 years ago
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    The sad truth is that prayer really only makes people feel better about situations they can't control. It's the same argument people give when they aren't facing hard times and they see something horrible happen, they say "everything happens for a reason". But when your child is the one dying in front of you, what reason can you really give? And what about the reason for children who die only days after they were born? People claim that all humans are born for a reason, but that makes no sense to me. These children were born just to die in front of their parents and leave them to mourn? To say that it happened simply to make their parents stronger in some way is cruel and insensitive.

    Much of the stuff in the bible I believe is stuff people put there because they wanted the faith to sound good. Why not join if you can get anything just by asking? Truth is, if there truly is a god out there, I imagine it hurts him/her/them to know they're expected to be perfect and in control all the time. It's no different from a parent trying to be perfect for their kid, I bet.

  • 9 years ago

    I honestly know that you won't understand. So, I'll explain it the easiest way: Faith. I know that I trust in God enough to admit that I do not know everything, and the things that I cannot explain, I accept through faith. There's enough evidence to support that there is a God for me to believe it. Here's an example: Just because we can't count to the highest number, does that mean it doesn't exist?

    And with the whole milk jug thing: Just because you think you know the answer does not mean it's true. The difference it would make if someone prayed to a milk jug is that the milk jug CANNOT answer anything. God can. (Even if you refuse to accept it.)

    And, forgive me for answering this with another question, but what exactly is your reason for asking this question? I mean, you apparently are completely dedicated to atheism, so it's not like you want to be convinced. So, what? You just wanted to waste your own time and other people's for your own pointless satisfaction?

    God bless.

  • CWSfan
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    9 years ago

    People have written books about this question and we could go on forever. What is the purpose of prayer? Is it to get what I want? I may suggest it is to understand what is going on. Do you think if I pray more than someone else that God will give me whatever I want? IF I pray I get things. No I think it is so I gain wisdom about the thing that are going on in my life.

    Where is God in this? God is right next to the parents giving them what they need to make it thru this bad situation.

    A very brief answer.

  • 9 years ago

    God is still here. All because people chose to pray to God and God allowing the child to die does not mean God does not exist. Everyone will die at some point in time because we are all sinners and the wages of sin is death. This means that all of humanity will experience a physical death at some point in time. For proof of the God of Israel (the Christian God) please read below:

    The Judo-Christian God of the Bible is the One and True God because He is the only God that has withstood the test of time, science, history, and prophecies of the Bible. This can be seen through the Dead Sea Scrolls that were written over 2000 years ago; proving that it with stood the test of time because it matches up word-for-word of the Hebrew Bible today. Verses such as Leviticus 17:14 stating “For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.” and Isaiah 40:22 stating “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”. These verses in the Bible are proven to be scientifically true thousands of years after they were written! The Israelites being enslaved to the Egyptians 3000 years ago and the Israelites spending 40 years in the desert is historically accurate proving that the Bible stands the test of history. And the test of prophecy is being fulfilled right now by the world leaders discussing and making plans how on they, the leaders of the world, are able to unite the world through a global government and economy. This is written in the Bible in verse of Revelation 13:7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.” and in Revelation 13:16-17 “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”.

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  • 9 years ago

    Many have taken these verses out of their proper context and have become confused.

    If you return the Matthew 7, you will see that Jesus says, "Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!". The point of this verse is not to say that you will get whatever you want if you pray, but that you will get what you need. God does not give snakes or stones to his children, but only what is correct; and he knows much more than we do what is correct. In the situation that you describe, it appears to us that the best outcome would have been for the child to live, but the result of the child dying could have been the best outcome when you see the whole panorama of life placed in its eternal framework. }

    The other verses seem to indicate that God will grant us our every wish, but read again carefully. Jesus was speaking to his disciples and he was criticizing them for their LACK OF FAITH. This can be easily seen if you just read all of Matthew 17:20 and also verse 19:

    Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, "Why could we not cast it out?"

    He said to them, "Because of your little faith. For truly, I say to you, if you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you."

    If it was hard for those that walked with Jesus to have just a little faith, how hard do you think it is for the rest of us? All Christians must struggle to make sure that they have a relationship with God that is founded on true faith, otherwise we are just participating in a mental exercise. Faith is spiritual reality, it is not just simple belief. Faith transforms and gives evidence of the truth of God.

    Finally, John 14 illustrates how faith changes the very shape of our desires: "I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing." By this, we see that faith makes us vehicles for Christ. When you were a Christian, did you look to serve yourself or to serve God? Were your desires Earthly or spiritual? Faith is a measuring stick for all Christians. I draws a line in the sand. Did you ever truly experience it?

    Summary:

    1) Faith is powerful, it transforms our will and it gives us power to accomplish the work of God.

    2) Faith is difficult to come by, but we only need just a little.

    3) Faith allows us to enter into a relationship with God in which he will give us what we need, not necessarily what we want.

  • 9 years ago

    i doubt you neer truly knew God when you said you used to believe in him, maybe you just went to church, if you truly follow God he proves his existance to you and it can no longer be possible to doubt it

    in respect to you statements

    the bible also quotes, do not test God

    it was the parents choice not to medicate the child

    this is a fallen world in case you did not realise (that means it is not direclty governed by God)

    God must demonstrate what it islike when we choose other Gods which was the case in the garden of eden, WHEN WE CHOOSE TO BE OUR OWN GODS to let us see that only he is fit to govenern the world as GOD in perfect harmony, and nothing else can take his place or do his job as it will not be adequate

    we create the mess the planet is in

    that kid was destined to die one day anyway

    ppl need to grow up a bit they blame God for everyhing that goes wrong and thank him for nothing it doesnt work thar way

    Genesis 9:3 ESV / 35 helpful votes

    Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

    Ezekiel 47:12 ESV / 24 helpful votes

    And on the banks, on both sides of the river, there will grow all kinds of trees for food. Their leaves will not wither, nor their fruit fail, but they will bear fresh fruit every month, because the water for them flows from the sanctuary. Their fruit will be for food, and their leaves for healing.”

    Isaiah 40:8 ESV / 14 helpful votes

    The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

    this is the best way to get to know Christ

    To be at peace with self,

    Eveyone lives to feel good, one way or another

    by being a born again Christian and binding your sould with the light inside you, you become a new being in God. With a hightened conscience (to keep you out of mischief).

    The traits of the Holy Spirtit are Inner Peace, Joy (stronger than happiness, usually determined as sustained happyness over a period of time), Ecstatic Bliss, Oneness, Fulfillment

    FULFILLMENT (this is the most valuable thing in the world, despite what anyone says if you have fulfillment it surpasses everything............ think about it ...... when you are rich there is no amount that sates you, you just keep wanting more, its the same with everything else.... sex, your fav sport team wining whatever god you have put at the forefront of your life, you are decevied by your ego/devil into thinking this is what you want, but only leads to a soul that is hollowed by the empty wants of these over valued posessions/gods thought to be more than waht they are

    Ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature, namely His eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse; for although they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. Paul 18-32

  • 9 years ago

    the ultimate answer to this age old question is...GOD BANISHED US! what part of this do people not understand? god is like a parent or a teacher, a few mess up, everybody pays for it. since the begining of time we have dissapointed god time and time again. we are out here all on our own! quit thinking so close minded.

  • 9 years ago

    if you serve a milk jug, then you don't have much of a god. The milk jug can't answer with a yes, period.

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