why did lds not answer my question?

Put Phrog, Ammon and Daniel together and you have an excellent answer.

Your statements are so many trite falsehoods, oft repeated, that it is hard to no where to start.

Sometimes we don't answer dumb questions because we are tired of reading them and thinking to ourselves, not that one again. Sometimes questioners give up before any of us see it and can answer it. As for me, I try to answer good questions with good answers. I was drawn to your question because many of the LDS respondents I respect had already answered so I determined to have a look myself.

1. Joseph Smith was and is a prophet of God.

2. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. They are three distinct and separate beings as attested abundantly in scripture. They work in concert with each other, in unison and harmony of purpose, to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of mankind.

3. We neither add to nor subtract from the laws and revelations of the Bible. We have been given new scripture that supplements, compliments and supports the Bible. God speaks today as in times past. Amos declared, "Surely the Lord God will do nothing save He revealeth His secrets unto His servants, the prophets". Amos 3:7

4. Joseph Smith was humble and submissive to God throughout his life. He eventually sealed his testimony with his life. He knew that he was going to be killed but he submitted anyway to the corrupt law around him. He was promised protection and it was not given. Like many prophets before him, he willingly sacrificed his life for the cause of Christ.

5. Finally, the church has not dissolved even though our "charismatic leaders" have died. The church continues and prospers because it is founded on the rock of revelation that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God with a foundation of apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. Every member of the Church is here because the Holy Ghost testified to them that this was and is the work of God. Do some fall away? Of course they do. Do you not recall the parable of the seeds that are sown in rocky soil or soil that has no depth or along the roadside where the seeds just simply cannot take root and grow and thrive? That is the case with many members that hear the word and accept it at first but then can't stand the hardships and trials that come with membership. They fall away after the philosophies of men, thinking the gospel is too hard for them. This is nothing new. Even the very elect are deceived. That is the case with sons of prophets as well as regular members.

I have three daughters that are faithful and three sons who are not. What am I to do? Do I give up? No, of course not. I know whom I worship and I continue to reach out in love to my sons in the hope and faith that one day, they will see the error of their ways and come back to the truths that they were taught from the beginning.

I hope you can open your heart and mind to the gospel some day as well.

Our Readers Ask . . . Is the Trinity a Bible Teaching?

The Trinity doctrine is defined this way, although

there are many variations: “Three divine

Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost),

each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty,

none greater or less than another, each

said to be God, and yet together being but one

God.” Is this a Bible teaching?

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It was the "experts" that vilified and then caused Jesus Christ to be crucified.

You trust "experts" at your own peril.

What you said was said about all of the Prophets throughout the ages. What, do you think Pharaoh was a believer in Moses' God???

A person can be standing right in front of a Prophet of God, and not know who it is that they are addressing.

Any comparison with Jim Jones, and Moses, or Jim Jones and Joseph Smith, is completely absurd. It is the kind of thinking that Pharaoh did.

The way out of the mire of self-deception is to keep the commandments of Jesus Christ. Then you will be able to see clearly what is the truth.

Follow what Jesus Christ said to do, and this will lead you to become a member of THE Church Of JESUS CHRIST Of Latter Day Saints.

The journey to Jesus goes through THE Church Of JESUS CHRIST Of Latter Day Saints. Take that journey if you dare. If you have the courage of the early Christian Saints, who when they learned of Jesus Christ's Church 2,000 years ago...

they joined, even if meant that they might die for doing that.

Follow what God through prayer tells you to do, not what experts with an ax to grind and a beam in their own eye tells you what to do.

That is the way to Christ, and to Christ's Church too.

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God bless.

Oh, wow, don't make me do this again. . .

I have gone through the entire New Testament and listed the HUNDREDS of scriptures where Jesus speaks of the Father as a separate entity--the Father, who is Father of us all and whom Jesus does the work of, and whose will He attends to. Also, Jesus speaks to His disciples and states that unless He returns to heaven, the Comforter could not come to be with us.

Read the account of Jesus' baptism. After Jesus was brought out of the water, a voice that was not His own stated: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Basically, this is the Father speaking of the Son.

Read the account of Jesus praying (as He did many times throughout the New Testament--was He praying to Himself? Duh!) in the Garden of Gethsemene. Jesus addresses His Father as Abba, which is the informal term for "father." It is obvious from this that Jesus has a relationship with a separate entity, as He seeks to do the will of the Father but expresses His fear of what is to come.

I don't understand why people insist on this trinity thing. Another little job for Captain Obvious: There is only one God, who is our beloved Father. He is the only one in this universe that we love and honor as our creator. However, Jesus is His son, and is also immortal and powerful, and does the work of the Father. Jesus is also God, but not THE God. The Holy Spirit is yet another entity, immortal and powerful, and uses this power to bring truth and knowledge of our Father to us. The Spirit is also God, but not THE God.

These three are unified in work--to bring to pass the immortality of mankind, because we are loved by them. They are unified, but not one and the same.

I really don't understand the need to believe in God as a trinity--what purpose does it serve? Can anyone explain that to me?

Your statement, "the bible has many passages that state that god is three in one", does not stand up to a simple test... quote those Bible scriptures... yet there are many that show there are three (3) separate and divine, individuals, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost... God of gods as the Bible states it... and Lord of lords...

Jesus Christ states that his Father is also our Father...

Jesus Christ prays to his Father...

Jesus Christ states he is doing his Fathers works...

Jesus prays to the Father that we [followers of Christ] should be one, even as he and his Father are one...

Jesus is baptized, and both the Father, and the Holy Ghost are present at the same time, in the same place, yet still separate and individual...

the Apostle Stephen sees Jesus Christ on the right hand of God, as two (2) separate and divine individuals...

and so many more scriptures testify to the divinity and separateness of all three (3)... never as "one" single divine being...

Begs the question: three in one what?

Not to mention, things like How did God put Himself inside Mary's womb? I mean, people like to think that we believe God and Mary got it on when Jesus was conceived, but that makes more sense than that He just dove right in.

Then we have, Who was Jesus praying to in Gethsemane? Himself?

There are other questions, but you can start with these.

so stephen was also false when he saw Christ standing on the right hand of God?

and Christ Himself just 'didn't get it' when He talks to, prays to, refers to God as His Father?

and the HG was confused when he showed up @Christ's baptism?

interesting that you bring up the "trinity( a latin term, not found in bible)" point......let's see what augustine of hippo (he was the final framer of the latin doctrine of the trinity) said.......

"But under the oak at Mamre he saw three men, whom he invited, and hospitably received, and ministered to them as they feasted. Yet Scripture at the beginning of that narrative does not say, three men appeared to him, but, "The Lord appeared to him." And then, setting forth in due order after what manner the Lord appeared to him, it has added the account of the three men, whom Abraham invites to his hospitality in the plural number, and afterwards speaks to them in the singular number as one; and as one He promises him a son by Sara, viz. the one whom the Scripture calls Lord, as in the beginning of the same narrative, "The Lord," it says, "appeared to Abraham." He invites them then, and washes their feet, and leads them forth at their departure, as though they were men; but he speaks as with the Lord God, whether when a son is promised to him, or when the destruction is shown to him that was impending over Sodom."

so obviously EVEN HE (who more than anyone changed how a majority of christians thinks of God...who more than anyone else elevated the oneness of God to a level where orthodoxy felt it was only a semi-sabellianistic modalist distortion of the truth) did NOT have a problem concluding that God is numerically three separate personages.

JS and BY, whatever their human frailties may be will ALWAYS be honored by the church as prophets of the Lord. we understand that as a church progressing thru a time space continuum, we will by nature increase in understanding....and have.

the LDS ARE christian - we worship Christ, we teach/learn of Christ, we pattern our lives after His, and we turn to Him for our salvation and mediation, He is the head of this church and our faith is built on Him (not His prophets).....we are christian in every sense of the word.

what we are not is traditionalists who value the non-biblical creeds and councils with the same worth as the scriptures of God.

the LDS are often chastised because of things that past prophets have said that are contextually valid in THEIR time, but not so much in our own (ie: the JoD) and anytime someone presents this as doctrine of the LDS members flock to the question to point out that it is NOT.....that not every word spoken even by a prophet is considered scripturally binding as the words of the LORD. THAT is what the councils and creeds are for traditional christianity - your JoD..........and THAT is why there is so much difficulty for traditionalist christians to understand that not every word IS scripture for the LDS. because you have taken the words outside those from God and MADE them scripturally binding........they have been elevated to the position of scripture. they should not have been.

so perhaps the younger generations of traditional christianity will realize the fallacy of building religious doctrine on "holy men and not God fail" and abandon the misty, anomalous 3-1 substance for the one true God who loves and knows and understands His children and wants them to know, love, and understand Him and be with Him always.

phrog's right

and it's not that He COULDN"T -- it is that He didn't. He is of course all powerful....He is just also the ONE true God. and Christ is His Son...just as scriptures say without the creedal interpretive spin.

i have to admit i just stopped reading. but to let you know there is no trinity. it is not that he could not do it it is just that he didn't.

Dang!

I ditto phrog....wish I'd said that.