What is it about blanket statements?

We've all seen the grocery store packages of meat, eggs, and dairy products decorated with reassuring phrases such as "natural" and "free-range" and pictures of happy animals running around quaint country barns. But people who buy organic or free-range animal products because they think that the animals are treated well are sadly mistaken.

Many organic and free-range farms cram thousands of animals together in sheds or mud-filled lots to increase profits, just as factory farms do, and the animals often suffer through the same mutilations—such as debeaking, dehorning, and castration without painkillers—that occur on factory farms.

Organically raised chickens on some farms suffer from higher mortality rates than drugged chickens because extremely crowded, filthy housing conditions, coupled with a lack of antibiotics, can lead to even more parasites than are already found in drugged chickens.

Many "organically raised" cows are sent to factory-farm feedlots to be fattened prior to slaughter, where they are caked with feces and mud. Cows who are fattened on feedlots can still be labeled organic as long as they're given organic feed.

Cows on organic dairy farms may be kept in sheds or filthy enclosures, where they spend their lives mired in their own waste, enduring the strain of forced yearly pregnancies and having their calves taken away from them. If their udders become infected from frequent milkings, which often happens, many farmers deny them medicine, because if they medicate the animals, they won't be able to sell the milk as organic.

Cattle have their horns cut off and their testicles cut out of their scrotums, and many are branded with sizzling-hot irons, resulting in third-degree burns. Pigs on organic farms often have their tails chopped off and their ears notched, and some have rings forced into their sensitive noses in order to permanently prevent them from rooting in the grass and dirt, which is one of a pig's favorite pastimes. Chickens on organic egg farms usually have part of their sensitive beaks cut off, causing acute pain and often death. None of these animals are given any painkillers.

At the end of their sad lives, the animals who don't die on the farm are shipped on trucks through all weather extremes, usually without food, water or rest, to the same slaughterhouses used by factory farms. There, they are hung upside-down and their throats are cut, often while they are still conscious and struggling to escape. Some are still conscious when they are forced into the scalding-hot water of the defeathering tanks or when their bodies are hacked apart.

Its not exclusive to vegans/vegetarians, you hear it anybody someone is moaning ''all men think through their d*cks, all women are selfish'' etc etc etc.

A vegan would define any system which exploits individuals directly for profit as cruel. Let alone regardless of the welfare standards some forms of cruelty in the industry cannot be avoided, veal & dairy/eggs & sexing/ eggs & slaughter after spent/ Debeaking/ somatic cell count aka the pus that is in milk.

well i sure am glad YOU don't have a problem with MOST animals being treated cruelly and MOST animals being pumped full of hormones and antibiotics.. but i guess it's easy to feel that way when your not the one going through it.

i agree with you that people shouldn't make blanket statements but on the scale of animal agriculture (billions of animals annually) a little less suffering is still massive suffering

So you've been talking to vegans lately?

word.