Why are vegans against animal commodification?

Their not. ALL vegans use animal products. They just don't use (some) animal products. They draw the line at a certain point and use lies, vegan propaganda, and false information to justify whats on the other side of the line, while condemning others that don't conform to their delusional thought process.

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Bella said it perfect. Dead is dead. Animals also die to feed vegans. These animals are just as dead as the animals that die to provide meat.

Thanks Bella!

well, most vegans/vegetarians do not participate in the mass production of animals for consumption because they do not support the way they are treated in the process. Why eat an animal that suffered its whole life when there are alternatives? Most vegans/vegetarians are aware of the small percentage of farms that treat their animals humanly but those sources are either un-reachable and or they simply believe eating a living being is not necessary with so many other alternatives available. This is like saying that you feel bad for eating an animal, yet you order a cheese burger five minutes later. well, if you really feel so bad about it... why do it at all?

See the link by law & ethics professor who is highly specialised in the area of animal rights & as property under our law systems. The answer warrants quite a detailed response so here is his FAQ from his website

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/faqs/

The flaw in logic for near every justification to use animals becomes blatantly obvious whenever applied to humans. In this case ''humane slavery'' which was an argument back in America when slaves were kept, that there was nothing wrong to use slaves so long as they were treated right

what do you figure is humane and natural treatment?

when you make a profit off something invariably your relationship with that thing becomes corrupt. the problem with animals as commodities or property is that in when there is a conflict of interest favor will always lie with the property owner regardless of the conflict.

this is fine when you are selling broccoli or t shirts but when your product is sentient there is something very wrong with disregarding it's interests for your own benefit

they did not abolish child labor because it was impossible to imagine a situation where a child was treated well in employment they did it because when you give that much power to a majority over a helpless minority it is thoroughly corrupting.

You make the argument many slave owners made in favour of keeping slaves. "We raise them humanely, we don't ever beat them, we treat them nicely, whats the problem?" The problem is that commodification is commodification. Typically people who give your argument only provide two biased options and ask which is better:

1) An animal that is beaten and tortured it's whole life and then is killed and eaten.

2) And animal that is treated "humanely" and raised "naturally" and then is killed and eaten.

And then asks which is better.

I give the third option:

3) An animal that is allowed to live it's life free of exploitation and commodification.

It's still a form of slavery, no matter if they are "treated" humanely before they are sentenced to a certain death, only to suit people's taste buds, and not out of a necessity to survive.

For egg laying hens, if they are completely free range and are well treated and aren't solely seen as egg machines, I have less of a problem with that. Though I still wouldn't eat the eggs. I'm much happier with people who buy eggs from local farmers that spoil their hens, then factory farms that cram the hens 5 in a cage.

Here is a nice vegan video from A Life Connected.

http://www.nonviolenceunited.org/veganvideo.html

Vegan Websites:

http://www.chooseveg.com/

http://www.compassionoverkilling.com/

http://www.mercyforanimals.com/

http://www.veganoutreach.com/

To read about how to stay health on a vegan diet check out these great websites.

http://www.veganhealth.org/

http://www.vegan.org/FAQs/index.html

http://www.chooseveg.com/vegan-food-pyramid.asp

im not a vegan but animals are not treated humanely and natrually. only 1% of them are. the rest are raised in small areas in cages and never see the sunlight. only 1% are acutlly raised in a farm and thats local farms not the ones you see in grocery stores.

i think its narual to eat animals but i also thing they should be raised humanly. there not meant to be caged a entire life in a dark room. thats not nature at all. thats evil humans thinking about money.

For the same reason human commodification is wrong.

Would you make the same argument about how it's a-okay for me to enslave and oppress a group of HUMANS so long as I gave them (100% subjectively-determined) "humane" treatment?

There is nothing "natural" about using sentient beings as THINGS- let's not be stupid.

Wise Words

“All beings are fond of life, like pleasure, hate pain, shun destruction, like life, long to live. To all life is dear.” — Acharanga Sutra.

Animal welfare concerns the treatment of animals and has as its central focus the regulation of animal exploitation. Animal welfare maintains that it is acceptable to use nonhumans as long as we treat them “humanely.”

ANIMAL RIGHTS theory, concerns the use of animals and has as its central focus the abolition of animal use rather than its regulation. We have no moral justification for using nonhumans for our purposes.

Moreover, as long as animals are human property, animal welfare standards will never provide adequate protection to animal interests.

A shorthand way of describing the view presented here is to say that all sentient beings should have at least one right—the right not to be treated as property. If we recognized this one right, we would be compelled to abolish institutionalized animal exploitation. We would stop bringing domesticated nonhumans into existence for human use.

That's because there is no way to obtain meat without cruelty. Also there's no such thing as humane slaughter or free range or "treated humanely and raised naturally" as you've put it.

We've all seen the grocery store packages of meat, eggs, and dairy products decorated with reassuring phrases such as "natural" and "free-range" and pictures of happy animals running around quaint country barns. But people who buy organic or free-range animal products because they think that the animals are treated well are sadly mistaken.

Many organic and free-range farms cram thousands of animals together in sheds or mud-filled lots to increase profits, just as factory farms do, and the animals often suffer through the same mutilations—such as debeaking, dehorning, and castration without painkillers—that occur on factory farms.

Organically raised chickens on some farms suffer from higher mortality rates than drugged chickens because extremely crowded, filthy housing conditions, coupled with a lack of antibiotics, can lead to even more parasites than are already found in drugged chickens.

Many "organically raised" cows are sent to factory-farm feedlots to be fattened prior to slaughter, where they are caked with feces and mud. Cows who are fattened on feedlots can still be labeled organic as long as they're given organic feed.

Cows on organic dairy farms may be kept in sheds or filthy enclosures, where they spend their lives mired in their own waste, enduring the strain of forced yearly pregnancies and having their calves taken away from them. If their udders become infected from frequent milkings, which often happens, many farmers deny them medicine, because if they medicate the animals, they won't be able to sell the milk as organic.

Cattle have their horns cut off and their testicles cut out of their scrotums, and many are branded with sizzling-hot irons, resulting in third-degree burns. Pigs on organic farms often have their tails chopped off and their ears notched, and some have rings forced into their sensitive noses in order to permanently prevent them from rooting in the grass and dirt, which is one of a pig's favorite pastimes. Chickens on organic egg farms usually have part of their sensitive beaks cut off, causing acute pain and often death. None of these animals are given any painkillers.

At the end of their sad lives, the animals who don't die on the farm are shipped on trucks through all weather extremes, usually without food, water or rest, to the same slaughterhouses used by factory farms. There, they are hung upside-down and their throats are cut, often while they are still conscious and struggling to escape. Some are still conscious when they are forced into the scalding-hot water of the defeathering tanks or when their bodies are hacked apart.