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Lynn
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Lynn asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 9 years ago

A Yahoo user claimed that Canadians coming to the US for healthcare was a "FOX news myth"?

He said that Canadians coming to the US for care was a "Fox news myth". Then why do all the politicians and wealthy people of Canada come here for surgery? Waiting 8 hours with bleeding on the brain because there aren't enough beds? Waiting 6 months for a hip replacement? Not having advanced enough technology for certain procedures?

I know most of you won't read these. I'm just pointing out the failure to acknowledge the fact that the Canadian healthcare system is only good for the people, but when it comes to the rich and powerful, they don't have to settle for average.

Is this really what we want happening in the US, just so we can pay a lower cost?

In 2010, Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams traveled to the US for heart surgery.[78] He said, ""This was my heart, my choice and my health. I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics." IN OTHER WORDS: I don't have to settle for the same healthcare as the citizens of my country--I'm a politician, so I can have the best, while they have average.

According to a September 14, 2007, article from CTV News, Canadian Liberal MP Belinda Stronach went to the United States for breast cancer surgery in June 2007. Stronach's spokesperson Greg MacEachern was quoted in the article saying that THE US WAS THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF SURGERY DONE. Stronach paid for the surgery out of her own pocket.[72] Prior to this incident, Stronach had stated in an interview that she was against two-tier health care.[73]

When Robert Bourassa, the premier of Quebec, needed cancer treatment, he went to the US to get it.[74]

In 2007, it was reported that CANADA SENT SCORES of pregnant women TO THE US to give birth.[75] In 2007 a woman from Calgary who was pregnant with quadruplets was sent to Great Falls, Montana to give birth. An article on this incident states there were NO CANADIAN HOSPITALS WITH ENOUGH neo-natal intensive beds to accommodate the extremely rare quadruple birth.[76]

A January 19, 2008, article in The Globe and Mail states, "More than 150 critically ill Canadians – many with life-threatening cerebral hemorrhages – have been rushed to the United States since the spring of 2006 because they could not obtain intensive-care beds here. Before patients with bleeding in or outside the brain have been whisked through U.S. operating-room doors, SOME HAVE LANGUISHED FOR AS LONG AS EIGHT HOURS in Canadian emergency wards while health-care workers scrambled to locate care." [77]

In 2005 Shona Holmes of Waterdown, Ontario, traveled to the Mayo Clinic after deciding she couldn't afford to wait for appointments with specialists through the Ontario health care system.[79][80] She has characterized her condition as an emergency, said she was losing her sight, and portrayed her condition as life-threatening brain cancer. OHIP did not reimburse her for her medical expenses. In 2007 she joined a lawsuit to force the Ontario government to reimburse patients who feel they had to travel outside of Canada for timely, life-saving medical treatment. In July 2009 Holmes agreed to appear in television ads broadcast in the United States warning Americans of the dangers of adopting a Canadian style health care system. After her ad appeared critics pointed out discrepancies in her story, including that Rathke's cleft cyst, the condition she was treated for, was not a form of cancer, and was not life-threatening.[81][82] In fact, the mortality rate for patients with a Rathke's cleft cyst is zero percent. [83]

Update:

Doctor Knowtail, that is exactly my point: Regular canadian citizens can't afford to come here for medical treatment, so they are forced to settle for "the great Canadian health care". Those with the funds to do otherwise, choose not to be treated in their own country in which they CREATED the system. If the system you yourself created was so great, why would you come here? If the US is so bad, why do the officials come here?

Update 2:

So leaving people in a waiting room for EIGHT HOURS, while they have BLEEDING IN OR OUTSIDE OF the BRAIN, is taking care of them? A 65 year old woman has to wait SIX MONTHS in excruciating pain for a hip replacement? A woman has to wait 3 months to get a breast cancer biopsy? Several months to see a specialist? Shipping SCORES OF WOMEN to the US to have a baby is taking care of the most people? If that is your idea of taking care of the most people, then you are sick minded.

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  • T-Bone
    Lv 7
    9 years ago
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    To answer your question;

    As a Nurse in Northern MN I can verify that many Canadians come to America for Health care, because I treat them.....Its no myth it is FACT. The Canadian health care system is so inept with not enough doctors and long waits that if it was not for America, many of Canadians would die waiting for care in Canada.

  • bw022
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Of course one could look up the actual statistics on the number of Canadians who leave Canada for health care.

    In 2010, an estimated 44,790 people in Canada received a non-emergency procedure outside of Canada. This is based on polling done on doctors by asking the question "How many of your patients have received a non-emergency procedure outside the country within the last year". This number would include non-Canadians (over 140,000 non-Canadians work in Canada and some 90,000 have study permits), recent immigrants (250,000 or so per year), Canadians who were living outside the country, military personel, foreign diplomats, etc. This would put the number well under 0.13% -- probably in the 0.05% or less.

    Next, the study doesn't say that those people had their procedures in the United States or that the procedure would have been covered by provincial health care plans -- it could be cosmetic.

    Just for comparison, in 2005 one Bumrungrad Hospital in Thailand served more than 50,000 American patients in one year. In other words, there is a single hospital in Thailand which treated more Americans than all the Canadians who received treatment overseas. And there are hundreds of hospitals in India, Brazil, Costa Rica and Mexico who are only in business for Americans.

  • 9 years ago

    Our health care system is about payment. What you're talking about is medical expertise and waiting lists. No matter what kind of health care system you get, I doubt that it would affect the doctors or the waiting.

    I'm not pretending it's perfect. But I do think *some* kind of health coverage is better than none.

    My mother spent 20 years with her last illness - some in hospital, some in rehab, some in residence. The government paid the whole thing. The family paid not one dime.

  • 9 years ago

    The actually had to beef up staff at some Michigan hospitals to ahndle the Canadians coming over the border. In some cases they are getting treatment they cannot get in the great white North and the bill is being paid by the Canadian Health Ministry.

    http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/21/canad...

    Source(s): Texas!
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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Danny is also the richest man in Newfoundland, he chose Miami because 1) He could easily afford 2)He owns a Penthouse in Miami where he intended to recouperate, as Newfoundland is not really appealing in the winter. Belinda is the richest woman in Canada, Magna Autoparts, she had a small skin cancer removed and a face and boob lift, two areas which Americans excel in, and are not covered under OHIP anyway...........American Hospitals are good, no one is denying that....but 500,000 Americans a year go bankrupt trying to pay the bill............NOT even one Canadian.....

    ....and yes our Health Care does pay on occasion for US health care, we receive the maximum payment discount not offered to Americans as "volume users" and "guaranteed payment"......I'm sure your American Health Care would send you to Canada if the service required was not readily available too...right???????

    ..I know that I have the exact same health care plan as the prime Minister of Canada......is yours like GWB's..or Obama..

  • 9 years ago

    On any given day the neo-natal units in Montana are full of Canadian pre-mature children from Alberta. The mothers are evacuated there, usually prior to birth, due to the severe shortage of neo-natal units in Alberta.

    The bill is paid by Alberta's health care system.

  • hundreds of times more poor people go to other countries to get free healthcare because they can't get it in their own country. So, do you just think the lives of the wealthy minority are somehow more valuable than everyone else, or what?

    The "best" healthcare system is the one that takes care of the most people. Not the one that best serves the wealthy minority and leaves others to die.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    There is no excellence in the People's Democratic Socialist Healthcare system.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Rich folks from all over the world access health care in the United States. It should be noted that the care provided to the wealthy here is simply not accessible by the vast majority of American citizens, who are not rich...

  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Thanks for bringing this to Y/A's attention.

    Many left-wingers here are in denial.

    And you had a nurse from Mn. who empirically supported your point.

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