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When did science become about scaring children with end times predictions?
Global cooling due to carbon emissions (1970s),Ozone depletion due to carbon emissions(1980s), Global Warming(1990s), Y2K(2000), Climate Change(2010s), End if world 2012
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- Brigalow BlokeLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
2012 is not science, it is superstition and fraud, just as Y2K was. The only real thing about Y2K was a mainframe and control computer problem which was fixed. Ask any programmer who was around in the 1990s or earlier.
When you have clear evidence that the other three are false come back. Claims that scientists are using these ideas to gain grant money fraudulently are not evidence. They are anti-elitism and paranoia.
Until you have actual evidence you are repeating politically motivated lies.
EDIT And on re-reading your question you clearly have no idea of what you are talking about. Global warming from CO2 was predicted in 1895 by Svante Arrehenius and scientific papers about the possibility appeared all through the following 80 years on occasions. By 1972 a paper saying that global cooling due to particulate (not just carbon) emissions was possible through sunlight being blocked, but it might be countered by warming from CO2 was published, and another soon after saying much the same thing. These are on-line now and have been for months, go look for them.
In 1976 I began work as an analytical chemist mainly doing gas analysis. That year, the concentration of CO2 in the air was already higher than the book published in the 1960s said and over the next 13 years in that job I saw a steady rise in atmospheric CO2. it is also a fact of spectroscopy that CO2 absorbs long wavelength infra-red, which you can find out if you check books of data published even in the 1950s.
I do not care what some paid liar on the idiot media says, these facts will not go away.
You do not have a clue about the differences between fact and fantasy or science and superstition. Get one before somebody takes you with a scam.
- VinceLv 79 years ago
Global Warming and Climate Change are the same thing. And it is happening.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/12...
We knew Y2K was coming and we prepared for it. I know many people that were going through thousands of lines of computer code in the late 90s changing the year from two to four digits.
The end of the world in 2012 was the result of Catholic priests incorrectly interpreting the Mayan calendar.
- ?Lv 49 years ago
>>When did science become about scaring children with end times predictions?<<
It never has been about that.
>>Global cooling due to carbon emissions (1970s),<<
What science is that? Care to provide one shred of evidence to back up that fabrication? There was concern about aerosols causing cooling, but regulations easily took care of that (notice that most cars have catalytic converters).
>>Ozone depletion due to carbon emissions(1980s),<<
You mean CFCs? That was a real problem. Perhaps not as dire as the media likes to portray things, but still a problem. It's necessary for everyone to be aware of it due to the dangers associated with a depleted ozone layer and I don't think that children shouldn't be scared of skin cancer...
[sorry about the double-negative]
>>Global Warming(1990s),<<
Global warming is a real problem and needs to be addressed. Drinking the fossil fuel industry subsidized cool-aide won't make it go away any more than burying your head in sand will.
>>Y2K(2000),<<
If you're talking about the Y2K computer bug (programming bug, not a virus), that too was a real problem that was solved with a lot of hard work.
If you're talking about the doomsday predictions, those had absolutely nothing to do with science...
>>Climate Change(2010s),<<
Um...that's caused by global warming. Still a problem...
If you think that 'the name was changed by scientists', then you are very wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz#Global_wa...
[That was Frank Luntz working for the w. administration.]
>>End if world 2012<<
This also isn't a scientific prediction in any sense of the word. People who think that the world will end this year are being idiots and the people who think that scientists are the ones predicting it are 10x worse.
>>All false<<
Wrong... Please try to stop reacting to everything with such political/religious bias and zealotry.
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- tim kLv 59 years ago
science is about learning understanding and gathering knowledge ,good science is constantly changing with new knowledge ,this i think a lot of folks do not understand they think that if science s so smart then it should just know everything well it dont ,on the other hand there are some folks who think science will come up with an answer to fix everything well it wont
then there are folks like you who think it is all fraud well actually the fraud is put out through the media and by the media ,when has a newspaper sold more by agreeing with anyone
the main thi ng you have to contend with is the facts and you have got some mixed up already 2012 is aa myth ,ozone depletion is by cfc which is only one type of carbon
keep your ideas open take in the facts and do not make a hasty decision on science after all it was science that showed us climate change wether it be natural or manmade
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- Anonymous9 years ago
It's not science that scares children with end-time predictions. It's Christians. Especially those fundamentalists.
- MaxxLv 79 years ago
Don't blame science, blame politics. Democrats and environmentalists have learned how to use taxpayer money to lobby for the laws they want. The scheme is pretty simple, get a few far-Left nutjob 'scientists' to testify before Congress about the doom and gloom that is to come unless huge sums of taxpayer money is immediately injected into whatever the scare of the day is.
Once you've got a lot of people employed chasing the non-existent problem you've succeeded in building your own lobby for even more funding. And so it goes, round and round.
The man-made Global Warming scare will end on the day the funding is cut and not before.
Watch these if you haven't seen them, they are very good and explain this point a bit more.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0WwtPcALE
Global Warming Doomsday Called Off
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-330991046...
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- Anonymous9 years ago
News 11 takes you now to the scene in Virginia Beach where upon awakening this morning their entire community is under 2 feet of water, Andy Exxon is live" , "Andy how's it look out there,what's going on"? Thanks Christine Johnson,were here 3 miles inland and as you can see Christine i am standing in 2 feet of water,neighbors were shocked when arising this morning and going outside to fetch their newspaper only to see it floating.Some residents have water in their kitchens and pretty much all of them have flooded basements, there was no rain last night or any noticeable or reported storms out to sea,it looks as if we have instant boat community , i might as well be reporting from Venice,Italy Christine..I have Don Larks with me now , Don you've lived here for how many years now?
22 years andy, i've never seen anything like it , we warned them about global warming .....
Back to you Christine", "Wow"! "From that we go to Oklahoma and Alabama where 12 more tornado's ripped a community like a Councilperson ripping up a traffic ticket"
- ?Lv 79 years ago
Not really, your interpretations of the studies involved has been flawed (stop letting the media do your thinking for you). When has any reputable scientist suggested the end of the world was close at hand? Never, As usual, you lie, and badly
- Jeff MLv 79 years ago
The 1970s cooling was not due to carbon dioxide emissions. It was due to sulfur emissions from coal burning power plants. Sulfur emissions actively block the Sun's rays from striking the surface of the planet creating cooling. Evidences of this can be seen after major volcanic eruptions such as that of Pinatubo.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.g...
This is one of the reasons why, as well as acid rain, that scrubbers are placed on coal burning power plants today.
http://web.anl.gov/PCS/acsfuel/preprint%20archive/...
Ozone depletion is not and was never thought to be caused by CO2. CO2 is ozone inactive. Ozone depletion is caused by, not only a decrease of the Sun's rays on certain parts of the globe during specific times of the year, but also by what are known as Ozone Depleting Substances. These include such things as CFCs and HFCs.
http://bj1.estis.net/sites/nou-lc/default.asp?site...
Global warming and climate change are used interchangeably by news articles and other things. Though they do not mean exactly the same thing both deal with the same aspects and are a very real reality. If you contend this then perhaps you can come up with another explanation why the band associated with CO2 absorption centered at 667cm^-1 is showing the most warming.
Y2K had nothing to do with science and neither do 2012 predictions.
My question is when did science become about ignoring real data and only taking in cherry picked or fake data as is being done by the AGW denialsphere currently?
- Anonymous9 years ago
When did parents stop teaching children not to foul their nests? When will parents teach their children that the Earth cannot support 7 billion humans, without drastic climate changes? When will parents teach their children critical thinking skills?
Man is affecting his environment. True.
Man pollutes anywhere, he pollutes far from the original "dump site". True.
Pollution affects local climate, and global climate. True.
Human population increase over 600 million, and the Industrial Revolution to support the growth, corresponds with loss of ozone layer protection, and increases in cancer and cataracts. True.
If you've ever read the Christian "Holy Bible", it says the world will be bathed in fire "any time now". So the idea of letting children know that there is an end personally, and an end of "all" things, seems to be a hoary tradition.
Science shows one or more causes, terminated the dinosaurs. All of them. We have documented species going extinct in our time.
Or are you entirely clueless?