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Dear Mates, What's your opinion on these stats of Players playing Most matches at Home/Away ?
✔ Players who have played most number of Test matches at home, ever
1 ★ R Ponting (Aus) ★ 89 Matches ★ 54 % Matches played at home
2 ★ S Waugh (Aus) ★ 89 Matches ★ 53 % Matches played at home
Their Away stats
1 ★ R Ponting (Aus) ★ 76 Matches ★ 46 % Matches played Away
2 ★ S Waugh (Aus) ★ 79 Matches ★ 47 % Matches played Away
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✔ Players who have played most number of Test matches Away, ever
1 ★ Sachin (India) ★ 106 Matches ★ 56 % Matches played Away
2 ★ Dravid (India) ★ 94 Matches ★ 57 % Matches played Away
Their Home stats
1 ★ Sachin (India) ★ 82 Matches ★ 44 % Matches played at home
2 ★ Dravid (India) ★ 70 Matches ★ 43 % Matches played at home
Note:
a) Away matches = Matches played at opposition's home + at neutral Venue.
b) Above stats consists all players from all teams who have played test cricket till today.
Indian players are always labeled as those cricketers who play most of the matches at home for boosting average etc stuff but when I checked espncricinfo, stats were telling something different story. Some of our TC champions mates have developed some myths in the section, which are beyond the reality. It’s Ponting who has 59 avg at home and 46 away (approx), still those are Indians who got the tag of home track bullies. Alas.
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Edit: Ninja
Mate, whatever the degree of difference, it exists. Ponting has played overall 23 Test matches less than Sachin but still he has played 7 Tests at home more than Sachin. Difference is vast you just ignoring them with hypothetical possibilities (again).
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Edit: Thanks RSRD Sir,
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Edit: Joe
Number of matches in the series doesn’t matter. Whether you are playing four matches in one series OR two-two matches in two series, things remain unchanged. End of the story is Aussies have played most number of m
most number of matches at home. So they have taken most advantage of home conditions as far as above players have been mentioned.
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F1 Champion Sir Noetic
We usually see what we want to see. There is a significant difference in home/away pattern of players mentioned. Try to see that Sir ji. We are not here participating in school linguistic quiz, we are here for discussing Cricket mate.
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Edit: Max
I’ve told you numerous times to differentiate team records from individual records. One player can't be held responsible for Team wins/ defeats. It’s not Tennis, its cricket. Brian Lara, Asharful, Kevin O’Brian are/were fantastic players but at the end of the day mostly they stands in losing side, that doesn’t mean that they are not good. What matters is your 100% efforts. Had Ponting born in Bangladesh, could he have involved in 100 Test win feat? Cheers Buddy.
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Disappointed to see, stats have been ignored similarly as Dr. Nicholas’s
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Max: Thanks. Chairs !!!
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Edit: TJ
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- ⌚ ₯ℓηℓℸℏ ⌨Lv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
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A nice gesture. That’s the way to do it. Come up with valid points to prove another fake accusation about Sachin wrong. Nothing I disagree wid u here. The stats clearly show Sachin and Dravid has played more matches outside their home than Ponting and Waugh which proves that both are not home track bullies. In fact if you look at Sachin and Dravid’s averages in countries like Australia it proves the point further more. But for the ones who has been calling Sachin in that way had their pipe bombs blew on their faces as you proving their heroes had more home plays than those two! And they have unable to come up with a valid point against your point. Even the home and away match percentage proves it! Fact are facts, stats are stats. And I completely agree with TJ here too.
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@Joeblow:- What are you telling me? You said that Sachin had similar conditions when he played in India’s neighbor countries like SL, Pak and Bangladesh unlike the Aussie batsmen who even didn’t have home like conditions even in their neighbor country NZealand! Well you have been bowling pretty well at me at YAC grounds but this time it’s a juicy full-toss so allow to make maximum out of it! I mean come on? Do India, SL, Ban and Pak have similar conditions? Really? I mean really? R u serious bro? Though from the same region, these countries have many different conditions! If conditions in SL and India are similar then why SL has a real struggle whenever playing in India? SL has never won a test match there and had a very few ODI successes. India also struggled in SL especially in ODI tournament finals. SL and India has lot of differences in conditions, pitches and climax. In SL if you bat first and score 230/240 in an ODI you are guaranteed a win most of the times as most SL pitches will start to turn lot more in the 2nd half. India has struggled to chase even 220 here on number of occasions. There is no dew at night in SL. But in India it’s complete opposite. Bat first, score 300+ still very hard to defend it in India. The dew factor plays a big roll and will make the bowlers pretty ordinary. Look at 2011 WC final. If this match was in SL, 274 would have been more than enough to win. But in India it was at least well 50 runs short! Win the toss then bat first in SL but bowl first in India! Complete opposite!
Even if you take countries like Bangladesh their conditions are different too in fact that was why SL has lost 3 outta last 5 matches they played there.
Countries like Aus, NZ, WI, SA and England has similar conditions mostly actually. Doesn’t matter how far they located. Those pitches are fast and bouncy and everybody knows that man. And that’s why may Asian teams EQUALLY have failed there at times. Is there any Asian team who has done better in Australia and done poor in England (overall)? Apart from weak teams like NZ and WI all the other non Asian teams equally have made the Asian teams struggle on their territories. For an instance take Sri lanka. We have been equally struggling to win matches in England, Australia and South Africa bcz the conditions such as bouncy pitches and climax(the coldness specially) have got the better of our players. Even we have struggled in NZ at times. But look at SL’s Asian record. Like I said we struggled a lot in India with no test wins (not even a close one) yet, but we have got the better of Pakistan 75% times we tour there! We haven’t lost a test series there for 20 years now. We won 2 or 3 and drew the rest in that period of 20 years. But not even a single test win in India yet let alone a series win! So Pakistan and India are two completely different territories for us.
And one more point. Look at Ponting’s record. He struggled in India a lot and averaged around 20’s. But this guy dominated in SL and has an impressive avg here. Look at Shane Warne. He had lot of difficulties in India with poor avg around 50+ but he bowled exceptionally well in SL and Pakistan with a fine bowling average. Murali averaged 45.45 in India! But he had excellent averages of 19.56 and 24.96 at SL and Pakistan! What about that?
So seriously what’s conditions and countries are similar in sub continent? Lol?
I hope you guys would give credit where it’s due at least from here now.
Source(s): My answer got better and better lately. - Anonymous9 years ago
The difference is about four games from highest to lowest.
Ie if the last India Australia series was played in India instead of Australia, Waugh would be 56% away and Tendulka 56% at home. Reversing the order.
It says the difference is one home / away series which is how it should be. It's inevitable short term timing, nothing more.
- 9 years ago
Indian players are way better than Aussies in terms of away games.
How many times Ponting came here and scored double centuries like Sachin, Laxman and Dravid who scored heck a lot despite poor performance recently? Credit goes to Aussie bowlers for recent disaster.
Why a fast track bully is struggling to score runs at flat track? He should be scoring 3x, shouldn't he?
- Anonymous9 years ago
Above stats consists all players from all teams who have played test cricket till today.
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- Anonymous9 years ago
Above stats consists all players from all teams who have played test cricket till today.
- mᾶdmaჯLv 69 years ago
yes when you play most number of matches some good and bad stats despairingly joins you.
Most one day lost as a player
200 defeats = Sachin Tendulkar of India, from 1989 to 2012.
193 defeats = Sanath Jayasuriya of Sri Lanka, from 1989 to 2011.
165 defeats = Rahul Dravid of India, from 1996 to 2011.
163 defeats = Arvinda de Silva of Sri Lanka, from 1984 to 2003.
157 defeats = Md Azharuddin of India, from 1985 to 2000.
155 defeats = Mahela Jayawardene of Sri Lanka, from 1998 to 2012.
150 defeats = Arjuna Ranatunga of Sri Lanka, from 1982 to 1999.
149 defeats = Grant Flower of Zimbabwe, from 1992 to 2010.
A Man who has just heard about cricket he will not consider sachin as good player. We must take the positive side of player too just like you did here. Good work
@MBIOF .. Cheerz :)
@stats ignored? appreciated mate ... once again a best post .. :)
- JoeblowLv 79 years ago
Seem pretty normal.
If a player plays a lot of matches, they play a lot at home and also play a lot away.
It would be interesting if you did it on the amount of series an individual has played at home/away. If you did that you would find that Tendulkar would probably have played more series at home than away as places like Australia have 4 or 5 match test series generally whilst places like India regularly have 1,2 or 3 match series. Australia tours India on average two-three times for every one tour India does of Australia and yet they play relatively similar amounts of matches away as at home.
Another thing your stats do not take in to account is that India has got Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and up until the mid 2000's Pakistan who all have conditions mirrored what they are in India. Really if you were to include those bordering countries who were at some stage part of India, you'd have about 60% Home and 40% away.
Australia has got New Zealand as its neighbour who is not even all that close. The conditions there are not all that similar so it is not like a home away from home like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan all are for India.
- T JLv 79 years ago
â£Its in continuation of comparative questions & retorts from certain users, who have typified Tendulkar as a home track bully, to get their eyes opened to some true facts.â£
â£They have also labeled his certain inability to not finish matches or total lack of contribution, in winning cause to team India. You can add these stats for them to see for themselves.â¥
â¼But people, who have chosen to take that path, are not real cricket fans or they don't have cricketing reasons to say that about a certain batsman, who has proved their lies, again & again, with solid facts.â¼
â¼Similarly they have chosen to carry on with a player's one terrific stat, as the hallmark of batsmanship. That too nearly 65 years later. With exhaustive imagination of what he could have done, in modern cricket, whereas his stats proved otherwise.â¼
⤠Why certain users would never admit to Tendulkar as a better or complete batsman, than a single dimensioned--big average, against one country & other minnows, kind of a revered great batsman. â¥
â¤The above stats show that their current great lots are not able to do, what Tendulkar has done but he has to live under the shadow of a single dimension super star batsman forever..â¥
Source(s): â¼Noetic my darl you are far from credible, if you think I was referring to you alone or we just need your okay for T's credibility, as we are always behind him, like those Aussies are behind Bradman. Been here at YA far longer than you & you being an English guy, have your way with the words, doesn't mean that we lack in brains. Don't twist words & don't show me the dictionary. Again stick to ans posts, don't draw conclusions, always. I will take that comment out, don't puff your tiny chest, too much over that.â¼ - Ḉøøℓ βü∂∂¥Lv 79 years ago
Number of matches played is dependent upon the matches scheduled. If you consider the example of Australia, always 4 or 5 matches will be scheduled for the test series. So there is nothing wrong for the players Ponting & Steve Waugh having more number test matches than away test matches. It is completely depending upon the board.
" Indian players are always labeled as those cricketers who play most of the matches at home for boosting average "
That's wrong. Thanks for your stats. I would like to add few more.
Ponting runs at home venue - 7546 from 146 innings with bat avg ~ 59
Ponting runs at away venue - 5800 from 133 innings with bat avg ~ 46
Steve Waugh runs at home venue - 5710 from 140 innings with bat avg ~ 48
Steve Waugh runs at away venue - 5217 from 120 innings with bat avg ~ 55
Sachin runs at home venue - 6765 from 135 innings with bat avg ~ 55
Sachin runs at away venue - 8705 from 176 innings with bat avg ~ 56
Dravid runs at home venue - 5598 from 120 innings with bat avg ~ 51
Dravid runs at away venue - 7690 from 166 innings with bat avg ~ 53
Kallis runs at home venue - 6738 from 134 innings with bat avg ~ 59
Kallis runs at away venue - 5641 from 123 innings with bat avg ~ 55
BC Lara runs at home venue - 6217 from 111 innings with bat avg ~ 59
BC Lara runs at away venue - 5736 from 121 innings with bat avg ~ 48
Jayawardene runs at home venue - 6646 from 112 innings with bat avg ~ 64
Jayawardene runs at away venue - 3794 from 105 innings with bat avg ~ 38
I took stats of some of top run getters. Found out that, Indian top batsman like Sachin & Dravid played more number of test matches in 'away' venue' . They had same batting avg for both 'home' & 'away' venues.
Ponting, Lara, Jayawardene are some of top run getters, who has high batting average in home venue & low batting average in 'away' venues.
So it is completely wrong if some one names Indian top batsman as home track players. Above stats say who are home track players.
Source(s): Home: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/inde... Away: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/inde... - 9 years ago
Completely agree with TJ. A TU for him. And a star for you for this marvelous gem question. I would have given you 10 stars had Y!A allowed me. :-)