Atheists, I have undeniable evidence that you are TOTALLY ILLOGICAL...?

And where is your undeniable evidence?

4. Evolution is not the origin of life, it is the development of existing life.

6. There's actually plenty of evidence of new genes or traits as a result of mutations.

8. Again, you're arguing against the wrong thing and at this point I'd have to question whether or not you're just a poe. Lamarck's hypotheses were demonstrable wrong. Darwinian evolution is much more accurate, but even that has undergone modification since it's inception. We're talking about over 100 years of research.

Your claims broke down at number 4. We do have evidence supporting the theory of abiogenesis.

Even with your unhelpful added details, it's not even clear what "constructive gene mutation" means. Genes are not isolated strands of DNA that change as a whole, and what will be considered "constructive" (or an "improvement") depends on current and future environmental pressure.

Lamarck's theory is not what science claims.

What would count as evidence of creation? The "mechanism" proposed is an all-powerful being, which predict literally anything, and thus doesn't explain why the universe is the way it is and not otherwise.

edit: I'm aware of what he said. But you didn't ask "do scientists know how life originated?" You asked "Do we have evidence for origin of life?" Those are completely different questions. We do have evidence, just not enough to establish the level of certainty that science requires to say we know.

"4. Creationist: "Do we have evidence for origin of life?""

Actually theories, theoretical models, etc on how it is possible for it to have happened are evidence. Whereas a book saying there is a god with contradictory messages about his will is not.

"6. Creationist: "Do we have evidence for any constructive gene mutation?""

You mean other than clearly observed mutations in the genes of species that allow them to adapt to the environment, scientific evidence, the existence of cancer, etc?

The rest is pointless to go over because you are having a conversation with yourself answering for both sides and basing it on invalid information.

hum lets see

a strand of E. coli mutating to eat citrate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evo...

In 1975 a team of Japanese scientists discovered a strain of Flavobacterium, living in ponds containing waste water from a nylon factory, that was capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon 6 manufacture, such as the linear dimer of 6-aminohexanoate. These substances are not known to have existed before the invention of nylon in 1935.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon-eating_bacteria

yep constructive mutations never happen...

sadly i can not find the article on TNT-eating bacteria.

Taking this is not a troll post...

There is plenty of evidence for evolution, no significant evidence for the Bible, and the Bible has many flaws.

Even if there was no scientific evidence, it doesn't prove your religion is true. The world isn't that black-and-white.

I completely rewired a 1980 Alfa Giulietta once - don`t talk to me about illogical.

You're making yourself appear stupid....oh wait....thats right....you are a illogical troll. I guess there is no cure for the willfully ignorant.

No, apparently you don't have any evidence at all.

That was a ridiculously weak strawman, and your histrionic attempts to conflate abiogenesis and evolution only serve to illustrate how abysmally ignorant you are of actual science.

I already knew I was totally illogical... but even a moron knows that what you said is completely false.