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Can your worldview explain these two concepts?
1. Why is the material universe compelled to follow non-material (not composed of matter or energy) laws (i.e. Laws of Logic such as the Law of Non-Contradiction)?
2. How did all the information non-materially stored within DNA originate by "chance" when all observable cases of created information involve an intelligent sender?
@OO: It would be fair to assume "no" then considering you didn't answer either question :)
@Love Doctor: How much time you need Doctor? With enough time, anything is possible right? This is a brush-off answer.
@Bongo: You've self-refuted yourself. You've stated that the universe is not compelled to follow the laws of logic yet you ask me to learn logic and assume that logic should be universal...
@Joy: 1. How does saying, "It just does," answer the question? 2. There is no information in grains of sand in a beach. DNA is a more complex and condensed form of information (that something, namely a cell or the basic unit of life, recognizes and utilizes) than any software would could imagine creating. Your counter example is flawed.
@AEF: Non-material information is a reference to the fact that information through the coding, meaning, intended purpose, and expected outcome contains no matter and is without energy. In reference to DNA, this would be the codons. How could matter assign and utilized such non-material information universally without the ability to communicate because it would first need to have a universally understood language.
@Ideo: How are those "bogus" divisions? Have you not heard of materialism?
@Kamilia: GGACTAG and any combinations thereof are not information by themself. Otherwise alrjeoahq;whro;qwherojwqeoruj would also be information. Those nucleic acid base pairs are information because cells establish meaning for them (See@AEF).
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- 9 years agoFavorite Answer
1. Because humans are more than animated matter, they are living souls.
2. They couldn't have, information requires a designer, i.e. God.
Source(s): Jewish Christian Follow me on Twitter @BenjaminShai - ?Lv 79 years ago
How did all the information non-materially stored within DNA originate by "chance" when all observable cases of created information involve an intelligent sender?
By simply being not created it doesn't matter what created information involves. It's pomegranates and kayaks. Just because a kayak floats doesn't mean a pomegranate would make a great cruise ship.
Why is the material universe compelled to follow non-material (not composed of matter or energy) laws (i.e. Laws of Logic such as the Law of Non-Contradiction)?
Bogus straw-man division between material and non-material which by the way are decidedly unscientific terms. The word compel implies something outside making things happen. There is nothing outside. Finally, Laws are explanations for how things work. They don't make things work.
- ?Lv 69 years ago
1. Oh yeah it can. An invisible magician made it all.
Wait just kidding. The laws of logic (and laws of physics as well) are human descriptions of nature, not prescriptions of that nature. There is a distiction.
2. How do you measure the amount of "information" in a system? It is subjective, since the term refers to statistical data observed by humans. ACTCTATC has just as much information as GGGGGGTC in a DNA sequence. There is no information problem at all, so your question is irrelevant. Information is not stored non-materially, stupid. It is stored by the materials that indicate what human beings call that material. The human concept of what is present isn't a ghost that sits in the material being surveyed. It is a reaction in the human mind.
- AEFLv 79 years ago
First of all, I'd like to point out that ignorance does not justify belief in some random idea that answers all of the questions, or fills in the gaps.
1. Laws are not explanations of *why* things occur. Laws are an explanation of what occurs or what is. (i.e. 1+1=2) Theories explain the *why* part. Much of this relates to theoretical physics in general. A topic I would recommend you ask about in the Physics section..
2. What do you mean by 'information stored non-materially'? Could you explain what that is? This relates to abiogenesis and then the process of evolution.
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- Anonymous9 years ago
Yes thank you, it does.
1: It is not "compelled", it just does. If God existed, apparently it wouldn't, as He would be fiddling all the time and breaking those "laws".
2: How did all the information stored in the positions of the grains of sand on a beach get there?
Edit:
"There is no information in grains of sand in a beach"
Exactly my point. There is no "information" in DNA, it' a self-replicating molecule.. it just has a rather complicated way of replicating.
And "it just does" answers the question perfectly adequately.
Why does 1+1=2?
There's still no God. ;)
- Anonymous9 years ago
1 - some things are just brute facts, you can't just keep back channeling for explanations forever, e.g. I could keep asking "why does 1+1=2?" and I'd never get an analytic answer
2 - because there was enough time for chance to take its toll, literally billions of years.
- Bongo McGurkLv 69 years ago
1) it isn't
2) cumulative evolution driven by continual adaption to changing environmental conditions
3) learn some basic science and some basic logic
- Anonymous9 years ago
Get a education and all will be revealed, including your false premises.