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Lv 7

As Paul and John clearly teach that Jesus is the Creator, as per Genesis 1, how exactly is He not God?

"For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." Colossians 1:16-17

Even if you allow the unjustified JW addition of "other" to things, Jesus still created everything in creation. So God shared His creative acts with another, who was not God, yet still revealed that "in the beginning God created....." Hmmm, come on guys, do the math!!

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  • person
    Lv 4
    9 years ago
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    Jesus is God.

    God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one God. 3 persons and yet one God. It is not for the human mind to understand, at least not now in its sinful state. Perhaps God will reveal it to those saved by his grace in the new heaven and new earth.

    But if you like to make a play on words, why does Genesis say "Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness"(Genesis 1:26). Why us? Why our? This is one of the very first mentions of the Trinity in Scripture.

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    And let me add, the equality of Jesus and God is throughout scipture but even more so in John 1:1, 5:16-18, 10:30, and 20:28)

  • wesely
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

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  • NoName
    Lv 6
    9 years ago

    Then why does John call Jesus the beginning of God's creation in Rev. 3:14?

    Proverbs 8:30 says Jesus was God's master worker. Jehovah used Jesus in creating things. That does not make him a creator.

    Source(s): My math is easy. 1 God- Jehovah.
  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    You DO quote John and Paul, but what did Ringo and George have to say on the matter?

    Ermmm, so, there WERE other people on Earth, BEFORE Jesus was born to Mary, according to you? So, how did Jesus create these other people and the Earth, Sun, Moon, stars, Universe, etc., BEFORE he was born?

    "do the math"? - the Babble isn't a g00d source of Science or Math, at all.

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  • 9 years ago

    Do you understand what begotten son means? Jesus is the only begotten son of God (John 3:16). Jehovah created all things through Jesus. Jesus is the master worker (Proverbs 8:22-31). Proverbs even confirms it that Jesus was produced.

  • CF
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Consider the context. That´s what Trinitarians always forget:

    Observe how Colossians stresses the fact that the Father is God and not the Son.

    Colossians 1:2:

    May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father.

    Colossians 1;3:

    We thank God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ always when we pray for YOU.

    Is Jesus the God:

    No. He´s the image of God.

    Colossians 1:15:

    He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

    Is there a better translation than the one you´re using? One who agrees with the rest of the Bible and not just isolated scriptures?

    Yes. Consider other translations;

    New Living Translation (©2007)

    for THROUGH him GOD created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can't see--such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created THROUGH him and for him.

    English Standard Version (©2001)

    For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created THROUGH him and for him.

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)

    For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created THROUGH Him and for Him.

    International Standard Version (©2008)

    For by him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether they are kings, lords, rulers, or powers. All things have been created through him and for him.

    John 1:3:

    New International Version (©1984)

    THROUGH him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

    New Living Translation (©2007)

    GOD created everything THROUGH him, and nothing was created except through him.

    English Standard Version (©2001)

    All things were made THROUGH him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Hebrews 1:1-2:

    New International Version 1984

    1In the past GOD spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and THROUGH whom he made the universe.

    GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)

    In these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. God made his Son responsible for everything. His Son is the one through whom God made the universe.

    King James 2000 Bible (©2003)

    Has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.

    WHY DON´T TRINITARIANS READ THE WHOLE BIBLE AND LEARN THAT JESUS IS GOD´S SON AND NOT ALMIGHTY GOD JEHOVAH?

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    He's not God because

    - God knows then the Hour will be

    - Jesus doesn't

    - Jesus said the Father is Greater than I

    - Therefore they are not the same

    Source(s): Muslim
  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Jesus is God in the flesh.

  • 9 years ago

    Paul was an expert marketer. John was written by someone else as late as 120AD. Meaning they are not good sources.

  • Co
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    Paul and John were wrong. It happens. Haven't you ever said something that you firmly believed, only to be proven wrong later?

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