Questions... about our 'First Estate'? A few, that caused me to ask? Have we forgotten?

The spirit is the First Estate, which is yours to behold, as a Human in the whole of God’s glory one, finished, us, a body existing; of the called and chosen, the faithful, “First Estate alone always. My forethought ‘the perfect Pronoia’ holds its loving kind always. Amen

It is our right for living sake, our Primordial. And yes.., It is what we call Christ, the Premortal one… We give way… to as our home…. which becomes a living one . Where it is said and becoming true ‘ only one….. is good.’

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The Apocryphon of John

(The Secret Book of John - The Secret Revelation of John)

"I, therefore, the perfect Pronoia of the all, changed myself into my seed, for I existed first, going on every road. For I am the richness of the light; I am the remembrance of the pleroma.

"And I went into the realm of darkness and I endured till I entered the middle of the prison. And the foundations of chaos shook. And I hid myself from them because of their wickedness, and they did not recognize me.

"Again I returned for the second time, and I went about. I came forth from those who belong to the light, which is I, the remembrance of the Pronoia. I entered into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades, since I was seeking (to accomplish) my task. And the foundations of chaos shook, that they might fall down upon those who are in chaos and might destroy them. And again I ran up to my root of light, lest they be destroyed before the time.

"Still for a third time I went - I am the light which exists in the light, I am the remembrance of the Pronoia - that I might enter into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades. And I filled my face with the light of the completion of their aeon. And I entered into the midst of their prison, which is the prison of the body. And I said, 'He who hears, let him get up from the deep sleep.' And he wept and shed tears. Bitter tears he wiped from himself and he said, 'Who is it that calls my name, and from where has this hope come to me, while I am in the chains of the prison?' And I said, 'I am the Pronoia of the pure light; I am the thinking of the virginal Spirit, who raised you up to the honored place. Arise and remember that it is you who hearkened, and follow your root, which is I, the merciful one, and guard yourself against the angels of poverty and the demons of chaos and all those who ensnare you, and beware of the deep sleep and the enclosure of the inside of Hades.

"And I raised him up, and sealed him in the light of the water with five seals, in order that death might not have power over him from this time on.

"And behold, now I shall go up to the perfect aeon. I have completed everything for you in your hearing. And I have said everything to you that you might write them down and give them secretly to your fellow spirits, for this is the mystery of the immovable race."

And the savior presented these things to him that he might write them down and keep them secure. And he said to him, "Cursed be everyone who will exchange these things for a gift or for food or for drink or for clothing or for any other such thing." And these things were presented to him in a mystery, and immediately he disappeared from him. And he went to his fellow disciples and related to them what the savior had told him.

Jesus Christ, Amen.

When I "wonder" about things such as premortal or even mortal, for that matter, I always start with God, Truth, to arrive at a proper conclusion to the matter.

To begin, one must start with Gen.1 and understand that the only creation "in" (if there were such a place) infinity is spiritual, and that this idea, the Christ, is the idea that is God's knowledge of Himself, and that never left the I AM, because there is no place to go.

It is only the claim of matter substance that would have thought stray to beliefs of the flesh man being what God actually made. But if God made the flesh man, then God is a liar, because the Bible says God is of purer eyes than to behold evil (matter).

In short, illusions are just that, and the infinite I AM is all there is to infinity. Therefore, God's idea of man has always been man, and never a true mortal that found a way to separate from God.

Oh yea! I even have been employing alongside or waiting in line and think of of a 0.5 dozen super questions and then when I sit down interior the night to dazzle the accepted public my and contacts with my creativity, my concepts is as sparkling through fact the ASK field.

Yes of course as we were once of that which is the ALL. The gnostic gospels (if you call them such) have many descriptions of what the ALL were .....

We have the existence of every aspext of living thing contained within one existence, every experience of everything, living as one. We are of the all, the essence that moves in every creature, the existence before thought. That which brings all into being.

additional;

If I may just add a link to a very fine poem , I think it puts it very well

http://www.gnosis.org/library/hymnpearl.htm

If I told you we are spiritual beings having a physical experience along with the free will to think and do for ourselves, would you believe it?

If I said, that those who love this world and do not truly understand from where they came and to where they shall return, will be resurrected back here to this world and not to any of our Father's mansions, would you believe it?

If I said natural man is an enemy to God and all we do on this earth, evil and good is of our own choosing, would you believe it?

If I said those who do not seek deeper truths than what men teach of God, by asking God only and not following men, they shall not enter into our Father's Kingdom, would you believe it.

If I said this world is Hell and it's for our souls to learn and our body is nothing to our Father, would you believe it?

If I said all mortal souls are of worldly spirits and only through the Father, if one seeks only for pure truth through him and follow not men's teachings, will their soul be changed from a mortal soul to an immortal soul, would you believe it?

If I told you all I've stated above is true and not taught in man's Church's, would you believe it?

All I've stated above is as real as you reading this. Whether you believe it or not is your free will to choose for yourself and that decides who you follow. God, or Mammon.

Pray to the Father as Jesus did, and leave the rest alone. What is coming upon this world, few are prepared for and all the money, bullets or food is not going to save one single soul. Only you can save yourself. Thus I quote this from;

1 Corinthians, 2; 5. That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Don't believe a word I just shared with you freely. Seek deep within yourself and find Gods true church within you and not of any church on earth.

I appreciate the effort you have put in.

If you put in the same effort in some other field, humanity will be benefited.