Why do some people not consider Virginia a southern state?

Virginia has ALWAYS been considered a Southern state culturally. They're poor and stupid. That's what I think about everyone who doesn't live in CALIFORNIA.

The division of the Southern states vs. Northern state is established on the Mason-Dixon line that separates Maryland from Pennsylvania. Sure, Virginia is a Southern state and was a accomplice state. Maryland is technically a Southern state and would have been a accomplice state if Abe Lincoln had no longer had the Md state legislature sequestered in a basement to maintain them from vote casting for secession. Additional West, the dividing line between north and South runs down the Ohio River to the Mississippi, then across the northern border of Missouri. West of that, there may be really no distinction. It is effectively considered the West.

If there was definite certainty about this topic then so many questions wouldn't be asked and it would not be arguable.

Virginia is a mixture of both upper Southern and Northeastern culture. The Upper South had a different culture than deep south to begin with. But in recent decades Virginia has become more and more swept up in the encroaching Eastern Megalopolis that begins in the Boston area and continues on through Northern Va and Washington and down into Eastern VA and Northeastern NC around Norfolk/Va Beach ports. These are where most people live not in the country areas where they are still a bit Southern. But due to the state's laws, education, and governing system as a Commonwealth it's never been like Southern states further south and it has always had Northern aspects with heavy influence from Washington and NY.

Eastern states about where Va is start turning into multiple metro areas as one passes through and are dense unlike California where you're always in the same state. They speak mostly Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and Vietnamese out there anyway unlike the Eastern states where English is still dominant. Californians are very ignorant about the rest of the country. I went to school out there and they teach rubbish about the US outside of CA.

Same thing with Maryland and Delaware. MOST people who live in Virginia actually don't have "Southern" accents; they have mid-Atlantic accents, but it IS a Southern state, just not the "Deep South", especially around DC, and Hampton Roads.

ps Did you know that New York City also has a "subtropical" climate and that Minnesota has a lot of bugs, is rural, and is also very hot in summer?

I agree 100% with Emma. Virginians have always been Southern and slow, and California should be it's own nation. The United State of California, but you all can keep that hippie loving piece of crap called Northern California.

Good question. Depends on who's considering, not everyone is going to consider it a southern state.

Because people in VA are too intelligent to be considered a southern state.

Too far north and most of you are all yank sympathizers!