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Abiogenesis seems impossible?
The possibility of organic material coming from inorganic material is very unlikely. Also no one has ever gotten life from inorganic material. I am not a Christian, I am an Atheist, I just want to just understand if Abiogenesis is impossible or not.
After Miller's death in 2007, scientists examining sealed vials preserved from the original experiments were able to show that there were actually well over 20 different amino acids produced in Miller's original experiments. That is considerably more than what Miller originally reported, and more than the 20 that naturally occur in life. I got this from Wikipedia. Your argument is invalid.
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- gardengallivantLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
Molecules to cells - Abiogenesis with Astrochemistry
First - Probiotic matter forms in space in both gaseous reactions and on frozen dust particle surfaces. Asteroids carried these to planetary surfaces along with water. Thus dust clouds in space provide matter like methyl formate -- a product of alcohol and formaldehyde.
“Cosmic Blueprint of Life,” by Andrew Grant, November 2010 Discover Magazine
http://dangerousintersection.org/2010/11/26/life-m...
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/spacedus.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_formalde...
Allamandola & Greenberg’s nebula in a box experiment far surpasses the Miller Urey experiment because it produced both amino acid and nucleic acids.
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/nov/31-deep-sapce...
http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/tags/astrochemistry/
Second – Formadehyde balls protect the organics so they survive temperatures of up to 1,400 Centigrade (2,552 degrees Fahrenheit).
Formaldehyde locks organics in stable chains to survive the collision with Earth then later the formation of the moon.
http://news.discovery.com/space/life-poison-earth-...
If you put organic chemicals together and supply them with energy (i.e. heat them up), they'll react in space or in solution on Earth. Experiments have shown us that the building blocks of life will form on their own. Other experiments have shown us that those building blocks can self-assemble into more complex organic molecules. We also know that very short strings of RNA can have enzymatic activity, eliminating the need for fully encoded and translated protein production in the first primitive life. We know how many important parts of life may have arisen, letting us continue to explore potential paths of origin.
Source(s): Astrochemistry & Astrobiology http://www.astrochem.org/ Astrochemistry: From Astronomy to Astrobiology by Andrew M. Shaw - 9 years ago
All that is required to begin the formation of the first life form is a self-replicating molecule. Once we have that, the first primitive cell is not that far away biologically speaking.
This site shows what can happen.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucl...
Here is a quote from that site:
"[T]hough researchers have been able to show how RNA’s component molecules, called ribonucleotides, could assemble into RNA, their many attempts to synthesize these ribonucleotides have failed. No matter how they combined the ingredients — a sugar, a phosphate, and one of four different nitrogenous molecules, or nucleobases — ribonucleotides just wouldn’t form."
But now the ribonucleotides have been spontaneously formed in the lab--it was just a matter of finding the correct precursor chemicals. And this is a quote from the scientist involved.
“Ribonucleotides are simply an expression of the fundamental principles of organic chemistry,” said Sutherland. “They’re doing it unwittingly. The instructions for them to do it are inherent in the structure of the precursor materials. And if they can self-assemble so easily, perhaps they shouldn’t be viewed as complicated.”
Given what can take place in a lab, what can take place in the whole earth and over millions of years is not hard to conceive. Here are some sites that present some of the latest findings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/science/14rna.ht...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/09010...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/09021...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/06032...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/12/02120...
http://www.gla.ac.uk/projects/originoflife/html/20...
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?ar...
- ?Lv 79 years ago
One of the most widely cited studies used to support abiogenesis is the famous Miller–Urey experiment. Although widely heralded for decades by the popular press as ‘proving’ that life originated on the early earth entirely under natural conditions, we now realize the experiment actually provided compelling evidence for the opposite conclusion. It is now recognized that this set of experiments has done more to show that abiogenesis on Earth is not possible than to indicate how it could be possible.
See also
15 loopholes in the evolutionary theory of the origin of life
by Jonathan Sarfati
Did life’s building blocks come from outer space?
The "Nebula in a box" experiments produced 16 amino acids, but only 6 are protein constituents, and they comprise only 36.5% of the total (tiny) amount of amino acids produced. Also, these amino acids were only about 1/80 of the total amount of material formed—most of the material produced in simulation is typically an intractable tar - and racemic, not single handed as required for life as we know it.
Source(s): http://creation.com/why-the-miller-urey-research-a... http://creation.com/loopholes-in-the-evolutionary-... http://creation.com/did-lifes-building-blocks-come... - ?Lv 79 years ago
I recommend you watch following video, the maker won the Nobel prize for chemistry for these studies. Not impossible at all.
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- Anonymous9 years ago
Argument from personal incredulity